Comments on: Seamheads.Com Reviews Out of the Park Version 9 http://seamheads.com/2008/08/14/seamheadscom-reviews-out-of-the-park-version-9/ Wed, 23 May 2012 12:30:59 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: OOTP 9 Reviews / Media / CafePress Store - Page 2 - OOTP Developments Forums http://seamheads.com/2008/08/14/seamheadscom-reviews-out-of-the-park-version-9/comment-page-1/#comment-4235 OOTP 9 Reviews / Media / CafePress Store - Page 2 - OOTP Developments Forums Wed, 26 Nov 2008 00:41:43 +0000 http://seamheads.com/blog/2008/08/14/seamheadscom-reviews-out-of-the-park-version-9/#comment-4235 [...] Does this review count? Blog Archive Seamheads.Com Reviews Out of the Park Version 9 [...]<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('4235','OOTP 9 Reviews \/ Media \/ CafePress Store - Page 2 - OOTP Developments Forums'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('4235','OOTP 9 Reviews \/ Media \/ CafePress Store - Page 2 - OOTP Developments Forums','[...] Does this review count? Blog Archive Seamheads.Com Reviews Out of the Park Version 9 [...]'); return false;">Quote</a></div> [...] Does this review count? Blog Archive Seamheads.Com Reviews Out of the Park Version 9 [...]
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]]> By: IOU Snopes http://seamheads.com/2008/08/14/seamheadscom-reviews-out-of-the-park-version-9/comment-page-1/#comment-3257 IOU Snopes Fri, 15 Aug 2008 21:41:16 +0000 http://seamheads.com/blog/2008/08/14/seamheadscom-reviews-out-of-the-park-version-9/#comment-3257 Thanks, KJOK. That's very helpful. Alas, I tend to play baseball sims in a "combo" fashion, where I manage all the games for one or two teams and at least some games for each remaining team; the rest of the games, I autosim. Perhaps in a couple of years the AI for OOTP will close some ground with DMB's. Still, it's tempting for me to look further into OOTP, especially if DMB remains stagnant. Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('3257','IOU Snopes'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('3257','IOU Snopes','Thanks, KJOK. That\'s very helpful. Alas, I tend to play baseball sims in a \"combo\" fashion, where I manage all the games for one or two teams and at least some games for each remaining team; the rest of the games, I autosim. Perhaps in a couple of years the AI for OOTP will close some ground with DMB\'s. Still, it\'s tempting for me to look further into OOTP, especially if DMB remains stagnant. Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Thanks, KJOK. That’s very helpful. Alas, I tend to play baseball sims in a “combo” fashion, where I manage all the games for one or two teams and at least some games for each remaining team; the rest of the games, I autosim. Perhaps in a couple of years the AI for OOTP will close some ground with DMB’s. Still, it’s tempting for me to look further into OOTP, especially if DMB remains stagnant. Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions.
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]]> By: KJOK http://seamheads.com/2008/08/14/seamheadscom-reviews-out-of-the-park-version-9/comment-page-1/#comment-3256 KJOK Fri, 15 Aug 2008 21:20:37 +0000 http://seamheads.com/blog/2008/08/14/seamheadscom-reviews-out-of-the-park-version-9/#comment-3256 Snopes: Yes, you can edit the fielding ratings, OF arms, etc. although I didn't try that. It's my understanding that OOTP creates the player talent based on 3 years of stats, so if you're playing 2008 you are actually playing a 'projection' disk in a way. You can turn off almost all of the 'GM' aspects of the game, such as trades, salaries, etc. However, those "GM" items are the actual strong points of OOTP, so if you were going to do that, you're better off purchasing Diamond Mind. Where OOTP falls short is in the actual playing of the game details. In other words, if you just want to sim an entire season, OOTP will give you results that are very similar to DMB. But if you play a specific game against the AI Manager, you'll see the AI Manager is not as good as the DMB AI Manager. Also, the play results do not appear to be as varied as the DMB play comments, etc.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('3256','KJOK'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('3256','KJOK','Snopes:\r\n\r\nYes, you can edit the fielding ratings, OF arms, etc. although I didn\'t try that.\r\n\r\nIt\'s my understanding that OOTP creates the player talent based on 3 years of stats, so if you\'re playing 2008 you are actually playing a \'projection\' disk in a way.\r\n\r\nYou can turn off almost all of the \'GM\' aspects of the game, such as trades, salaries, etc. However, those \"GM\" items are the actual strong points of OOTP, so if you were going to do that, you\'re better off purchasing Diamond Mind. \r\n\r\nWhere OOTP falls short is in the actual playing of the game details. In other words, if you just want to sim an entire season, OOTP will give you results that are very similar to DMB. But if you play a specific game against the AI Manager, you\'ll see the AI Manager is not as good as the DMB AI Manager. Also, the play results do not appear to be as varied as the DMB play comments, etc.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Snopes:

Yes, you can edit the fielding ratings, OF arms, etc. although I didn’t try that.

It’s my understanding that OOTP creates the player talent based on 3 years of stats, so if you’re playing 2008 you are actually playing a ‘projection’ disk in a way.

You can turn off almost all of the ‘GM’ aspects of the game, such as trades, salaries, etc. However, those “GM” items are the actual strong points of OOTP, so if you were going to do that, you’re better off purchasing Diamond Mind.

Where OOTP falls short is in the actual playing of the game details. In other words, if you just want to sim an entire season, OOTP will give you results that are very similar to DMB. But if you play a specific game against the AI Manager, you’ll see the AI Manager is not as good as the DMB AI Manager. Also, the play results do not appear to be as varied as the DMB play comments, etc.

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]]> By: IOU Snopes http://seamheads.com/2008/08/14/seamheadscom-reviews-out-of-the-park-version-9/comment-page-1/#comment-3253 IOU Snopes Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:32:25 +0000 http://seamheads.com/blog/2008/08/14/seamheadscom-reviews-out-of-the-park-version-9/#comment-3253 Interesting review. Thanks. <i>"If you ONLY want to replay actual leagues, and have no use for front office or fictional teams, OOTP will still do that too, just about as well as Diamond Mind, only cheaper, and with easier team/league creation...."</i> I think the way OOTP stacks up against DMB in this regard is the crucial factor for potential DMB converts. How about more "subjective" ratings? Does the game provide something like DMB's range ratings for fielders; rate OF arms on something more than raw stats; rate baserunning, bunting, etc., in some manner other than raw numbers from a single season? For that matter, is it possible to edit a player's ratings once he has been downloaded from Lahman? Is this the sort of game where the creation of a projection disk is feasible? Would you know if there are people who play projection-disk type formats with actual players (as opposed to fictional ones)? As I understand it (and this is not from firsthand experience), in the context of using actual teams, it is possible to adjust the settings in OOTP to allow for total control over transactions, etc. (so that the roster at the end of the year could still be all real Cardinals). Along those lines, is there anything in OOTP that approximates the Actual Lineups and Transactions features of DMB's past-season disks? You say that, for actual leagues, OOTP is just about as good Diamond Mind. Where would you say is the specific area that OOTP falls most short of DMB in this regard? Thanks for the review, and thanks for any additional advice.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('3253','IOU Snopes'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('3253','IOU Snopes','Interesting review. Thanks.\r\n\r\n<i>\"If you ONLY want to replay actual leagues, and have no use for front office or fictional teams, OOTP will still do that too, just about as well as Diamond Mind, only cheaper, and with easier team\/league creation....\"<\/i>\r\n\r\nI think the way OOTP stacks up against DMB in this regard is the crucial factor for potential DMB converts. \r\n\r\nHow about more \"subjective\" ratings? Does the game provide something like DMB\'s range ratings for fielders; rate OF arms on something more than raw stats; rate baserunning, bunting, etc., in some manner other than raw numbers from a single season? For that matter, is it possible to edit a player\'s ratings once he has been downloaded from Lahman? \r\n\r\nIs this the sort of game where the creation of a projection disk is feasible? Would you know if there are people who play projection-disk type formats with actual players (as opposed to fictional ones)? \r\n\r\nAs I understand it (and this is not from firsthand experience), in the context of using actual teams, it is possible to adjust the settings in OOTP to allow for total control over transactions, etc. (so that the roster at the end of the year could still be all real Cardinals). Along those lines, is there anything in OOTP that approximates the Actual Lineups and Transactions features of DMB\'s past-season disks?\r\n\r\nYou say that, for actual leagues, OOTP is just about as good Diamond Mind. Where would you say is the specific area that OOTP falls most short of DMB in this regard? Thanks for the review, and thanks for any additional advice.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Interesting review. Thanks.

“If you ONLY want to replay actual leagues, and have no use for front office or fictional teams, OOTP will still do that too, just about as well as Diamond Mind, only cheaper, and with easier team/league creation….”

I think the way OOTP stacks up against DMB in this regard is the crucial factor for potential DMB converts.

How about more “subjective” ratings? Does the game provide something like DMB’s range ratings for fielders; rate OF arms on something more than raw stats; rate baserunning, bunting, etc., in some manner other than raw numbers from a single season? For that matter, is it possible to edit a player’s ratings once he has been downloaded from Lahman?

Is this the sort of game where the creation of a projection disk is feasible? Would you know if there are people who play projection-disk type formats with actual players (as opposed to fictional ones)?

As I understand it (and this is not from firsthand experience), in the context of using actual teams, it is possible to adjust the settings in OOTP to allow for total control over transactions, etc. (so that the roster at the end of the year could still be all real Cardinals). Along those lines, is there anything in OOTP that approximates the Actual Lineups and Transactions features of DMB’s past-season disks?

You say that, for actual leagues, OOTP is just about as good Diamond Mind. Where would you say is the specific area that OOTP falls most short of DMB in this regard? Thanks for the review, and thanks for any additional advice.

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