Comments on: The Trouble With “Tribbles” Part One — The MVP Award Arguments http://seamheads.com/2008/11/16/the-trouble-with-tribbles-part-one-the-mvp-award-arguments/ Wed, 23 May 2012 23:56:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Brian Joseph http://seamheads.com/2008/11/16/the-trouble-with-tribbles-part-one-the-mvp-award-arguments/comment-page-1/#comment-4169 Brian Joseph Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:54:22 +0000 http://seamheads.com/blog/2008/11/16/the-trouble-with-tribbles-part-one-the-mvp-award-arguments/#comment-4169 Mike H: Here's where that came from. Earlier this year on another site, I got into a discussion about why I think Albert Pujols shouldn't be the MVP this year. The person argued that Pujols is more responsible for the Cardinals success than any other player in the NL and commented on his Win Shares and the large percentage of the Cardinals' Win Shares he had. So, I went through and calculated the top player on each team's win shares as a percentage of the team's total win shares. The top two players in each league were: Lance Berkman (followed by Albert Pujols) in the National League and Raul Ibanez in the American League So, that is where that came from. :)<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('4169','Brian Joseph'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('4169','Brian Joseph','Mike H:\r\n\r\nHere\'s where that came from. Earlier this year on another site, I got into a discussion about why I think Albert Pujols shouldn\'t be the MVP this year. The person argued that Pujols is more responsible for the Cardinals success than any other player in the NL and commented on his Win Shares and the large percentage of the Cardinals\' Win Shares he had.\r\n\r\nSo, I went through and calculated the top player on each team\'s win shares as a percentage of the team\'s total win shares. The top two players in each league were:\r\nLance Berkman (followed by Albert Pujols) in the National League and Raul Ibanez in the American League\r\n\r\nSo, that is where that came from. :)'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Mike H:

Here’s where that came from. Earlier this year on another site, I got into a discussion about why I think Albert Pujols shouldn’t be the MVP this year. The person argued that Pujols is more responsible for the Cardinals success than any other player in the NL and commented on his Win Shares and the large percentage of the Cardinals’ Win Shares he had.

So, I went through and calculated the top player on each team’s win shares as a percentage of the team’s total win shares. The top two players in each league were:
Lance Berkman (followed by Albert Pujols) in the National League and Raul Ibanez in the American League

So, that is where that came from. :)

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]]> By: Mike Lynch http://seamheads.com/2008/11/16/the-trouble-with-tribbles-part-one-the-mvp-award-arguments/comment-page-1/#comment-4160 Mike Lynch Sun, 16 Nov 2008 20:55:19 +0000 http://seamheads.com/blog/2008/11/16/the-trouble-with-tribbles-part-one-the-mvp-award-arguments/#comment-4160 In addition to the Lincecum/Sveum screwups, three writers voted for Edinson Volquez for National League Rookie of the Year, even though he lost his rookie eligibility in 2007. That three members of the BBWAA didn't know the rookie eligibility rule is inexcusable as far as I'm concerned.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('4160','Mike Lynch'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('4160','Mike Lynch','In addition to the Lincecum\/Sveum screwups, three writers voted for Edinson Volquez for National League Rookie of the Year, even though he lost his rookie eligibility in 2007. That three members of the BBWAA didn\'t know the rookie eligibility rule is inexcusable as far as I\'m concerned.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> In addition to the Lincecum/Sveum screwups, three writers voted for Edinson Volquez for National League Rookie of the Year, even though he lost his rookie eligibility in 2007. That three members of the BBWAA didn’t know the rookie eligibility rule is inexcusable as far as I’m concerned.
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]]> By: Mike Hoban http://seamheads.com/2008/11/16/the-trouble-with-tribbles-part-one-the-mvp-award-arguments/comment-page-1/#comment-4159 Mike Hoban Sun, 16 Nov 2008 20:29:32 +0000 http://seamheads.com/blog/2008/11/16/the-trouble-with-tribbles-part-one-the-mvp-award-arguments/#comment-4159 Wait a minute!! What is this business about Raul Ibanez? Is it meant to be deliberately misleading? Raul Ibanez has "the team's largest percentage of win shares"? So what? Maybe he is the MVP on the Mariners. If anyone were to suggest using Win Shares to award the MVP (and I have not heard anyone suggest that), then the only logical way to do it would be to give the award to the highest win shares player in each league. That would be Lance Berkman in the NL and Joe Mauer in the AL, I believe. Mike<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('4159','Mike Hoban'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('4159','Mike Hoban','Wait a minute!!\r\n\r\nWhat is this business about Raul Ibanez? Is it meant to be deliberately misleading?\r\n\r\nRaul Ibanez has \"the team\'s largest percentage of win shares\"? So what? Maybe he is the MVP on the Mariners. \r\n\r\nIf anyone were to suggest using Win Shares to award the MVP (and I have not heard anyone suggest that), then the only logical way to do it would be to give the award to the highest win shares player in each league.\r\n\r\nThat would be Lance Berkman in the NL and Joe Mauer in the AL, I believe.\r\n\r\nMike'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Wait a minute!!

What is this business about Raul Ibanez? Is it meant to be deliberately misleading?

Raul Ibanez has “the team’s largest percentage of win shares”? So what? Maybe he is the MVP on the Mariners.

If anyone were to suggest using Win Shares to award the MVP (and I have not heard anyone suggest that), then the only logical way to do it would be to give the award to the highest win shares player in each league.

That would be Lance Berkman in the NL and Joe Mauer in the AL, I believe.

Mike

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