Comments on: Rocking the (HOF) Vote with Dave Kindred http://seamheads.com/2009/01/10/rocking-the-hof-vote-with-dave-kindred/ Sat, 11 Feb 2012 00:40:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Paul Ainger http://seamheads.com/2009/01/10/rocking-the-hof-vote-with-dave-kindred/comment-page-1/#comment-4832 Paul Ainger Fri, 23 Jan 2009 04:58:26 +0000 http://seamheads.com/blog/2009/01/10/rocking-the-hof-vote-with-dave-kindred/#comment-4832 We all watch lots of games, but so what?<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('4832','Paul Ainger'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('4832','Paul Ainger','We all watch lots of games, but so what?'); return false;">Quote</a></div> We all watch lots of games, but so what?
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]]> By: Ron http://seamheads.com/2009/01/10/rocking-the-hof-vote-with-dave-kindred/comment-page-1/#comment-4779 Ron Sat, 17 Jan 2009 14:13:15 +0000 http://seamheads.com/blog/2009/01/10/rocking-the-hof-vote-with-dave-kindred/#comment-4779 Funny how the fanatics who have taken over baseball blogging all sound the same, but do these people actually LIKE the game of baseball itself? It just burns them that sportswriters, some of whom have attended thousands of games, have a Hall of Fame vote instead of them. Kindred certainly doesn't need to answer to these people. There's room for statistical analysis of course, but not this rigid orthodoxy the bloggers want it to become. Suddenly Andre Dawson was no good because of his OBP? Incredible. Great interview as always Mike, for sure you love the game and see it from all sides.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('4779','Ron'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('4779','Ron','Funny how the fanatics who have taken over baseball blogging all sound the same, but do these people actually LIKE the game of baseball itself? It just burns them that sportswriters, some of whom have attended thousands of games, have a Hall of Fame vote instead of them. Kindred certainly doesn\'t need to answer to these people. \r\n\r\nThere\'s room for statistical analysis of course, but not this rigid orthodoxy the bloggers want it to become. Suddenly Andre Dawson was no good because of his OBP? Incredible. \r\n\r\nGreat interview as always Mike, for sure you love the game and see it from all sides.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Funny how the fanatics who have taken over baseball blogging all sound the same, but do these people actually LIKE the game of baseball itself? It just burns them that sportswriters, some of whom have attended thousands of games, have a Hall of Fame vote instead of them. Kindred certainly doesn’t need to answer to these people.

There’s room for statistical analysis of course, but not this rigid orthodoxy the bloggers want it to become. Suddenly Andre Dawson was no good because of his OBP? Incredible.

Great interview as always Mike, for sure you love the game and see it from all sides.

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]]> By: Paul Ainger http://seamheads.com/2009/01/10/rocking-the-hof-vote-with-dave-kindred/comment-page-1/#comment-4755 Paul Ainger Tue, 13 Jan 2009 03:54:38 +0000 http://seamheads.com/blog/2009/01/10/rocking-the-hof-vote-with-dave-kindred/#comment-4755 I too, am disappointed that Dave Kindred is not curious enough to engage in learning about the statistical analysis to discern perceptions from something closer to the truth. I read him in TSN for years. A huge disappointment, indeed. Sorry, Dave, take 20 minutes to learn the new tools. It might give you a new lease on life.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('4755','Paul Ainger'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('4755','Paul Ainger','I too, am disappointed that Dave Kindred is not curious enough to engage in learning about the statistical analysis to discern perceptions from something closer to the truth. I read him in TSN for years. A huge disappointment, indeed. Sorry, Dave, take 20 minutes to learn the new tools. It might give you a new lease on life.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I too, am disappointed that Dave Kindred is not curious enough to engage in learning about the statistical analysis to discern perceptions from something closer to the truth. I read him in TSN for years. A huge disappointment, indeed. Sorry, Dave, take 20 minutes to learn the new tools. It might give you a new lease on life.
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]]> By: Steve Strickland http://seamheads.com/2009/01/10/rocking-the-hof-vote-with-dave-kindred/comment-page-1/#comment-4747 Steve Strickland Mon, 12 Jan 2009 18:11:47 +0000 http://seamheads.com/blog/2009/01/10/rocking-the-hof-vote-with-dave-kindred/#comment-4747 Interesting that he jokes about not knowing modern statistics. Sounds like another dinosaur who just goes with his gut. I doubt many pitchers actually feared Rice, and Dwight Evans was probably better. But to hear another writer disparage modern statistics is disappointing.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('4747','Steve Strickland'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('4747','Steve Strickland','Interesting that he jokes about not knowing modern statistics. Sounds like another dinosaur who just goes with his gut. I doubt many pitchers actually feared Rice, and Dwight Evans was probably better. But to hear another writer disparage modern statistics is disappointing.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Interesting that he jokes about not knowing modern statistics. Sounds like another dinosaur who just goes with his gut. I doubt many pitchers actually feared Rice, and Dwight Evans was probably better. But to hear another writer disparage modern statistics is disappointing.
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]]> By: ajnrules http://seamheads.com/2009/01/10/rocking-the-hof-vote-with-dave-kindred/comment-page-1/#comment-4734 ajnrules Sat, 10 Jan 2009 21:42:48 +0000 http://seamheads.com/blog/2009/01/10/rocking-the-hof-vote-with-dave-kindred/#comment-4734 I think the inclusion of so many players from the Gas House Gang and the 1920s Giants by the Veterans Committee is not necessarily a nod towards Branch Rickey or John McGraw...Frankie Frisch. Frisch was notorious for the election of his old teammates who weren't even borderline, guys like Hafey, Highpockets Kelly, Dave Bancroft, Jesse Haines, and Ross Youngs. All these players have one thing in common: they played with Frisch in New York or St. Louis, they were voted in between 1970-1973, when Frisch served as VC chair, and they were well below average in Bill James's four Hall of Fame monitors.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('4734','ajnrules'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('4734','ajnrules','I think the inclusion of so many players from the Gas House Gang and the 1920s Giants by the Veterans Committee is not necessarily a nod towards Branch Rickey or John McGraw...Frankie Frisch. Frisch was notorious for the election of his old teammates who weren\'t even borderline, guys like Hafey, Highpockets Kelly, Dave Bancroft, Jesse Haines, and Ross Youngs. All these players have one thing in common: they played with Frisch in New York or St. Louis, they were voted in between 1970-1973, when Frisch served as VC chair, and they were well below average in Bill James\'s four Hall of Fame monitors.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I think the inclusion of so many players from the Gas House Gang and the 1920s Giants by the Veterans Committee is not necessarily a nod towards Branch Rickey or John McGraw…Frankie Frisch. Frisch was notorious for the election of his old teammates who weren’t even borderline, guys like Hafey, Highpockets Kelly, Dave Bancroft, Jesse Haines, and Ross Youngs. All these players have one thing in common: they played with Frisch in New York or St. Louis, they were voted in between 1970-1973, when Frisch served as VC chair, and they were well below average in Bill James’s four Hall of Fame monitors.
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]]> By: Dan Crivello http://seamheads.com/2009/01/10/rocking-the-hof-vote-with-dave-kindred/comment-page-1/#comment-4732 Dan Crivello Sat, 10 Jan 2009 15:57:48 +0000 http://seamheads.com/blog/2009/01/10/rocking-the-hof-vote-with-dave-kindred/#comment-4732 Very interesting. I am pleased to see Mr Kindred puts a lot of consideration into his votes. Its very easy to think the voters don't when you don't agree with him. That said, I don't agree with him on any player but Henderson.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('4732','Dan Crivello'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('4732','Dan Crivello','Very interesting. I am pleased to see Mr Kindred puts a lot of consideration into his votes. Its very easy to think the voters don\'t when you don\'t agree with him.\r\n\r\n That said, I don\'t agree with him on any player but Henderson.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Very interesting. I am pleased to see Mr Kindred puts a lot of consideration into his votes. Its very easy to think the voters don’t when you don’t agree with him.

That said, I don’t agree with him on any player but Henderson.

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