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	<title>Comments on: 2009 Hall of Fame Vote: Us vs. Them</title>
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		<title>By: Jonathan C. Mitchell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan C. Mitchell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 14:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the quote!  I think Samheads ballots were way better than the BBWAA.  Only 22% for Raines yet Dawson goes up to 67%?  I just don&#039;t get it.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;4761&#039;,&#039;Jonathan C. Mitchell&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;4761&#039;,&#039;Jonathan C. Mitchell&#039;,&#039;Thanks for the quote!  I think Samheads ballots were way better than the BBWAA.  Only 22% for Raines yet Dawson goes up to 67%?  I just don\&#039;t get it.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the quote!  I think Samheads ballots were way better than the BBWAA.  Only 22% for Raines yet Dawson goes up to 67%?  I just don&#8217;t get it.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('4761','Jonathan C. Mitchell'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('4761','Jonathan C. Mitchell','Thanks for the quote!  I think Samheads ballots were way better than the BBWAA.  Only 22% for Raines yet Dawson goes up to 67%?  I just don\'t get it.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: BJ Stone</title>
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		<dc:creator>BJ Stone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 23:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim Rice. Wow. More than ever, thanks to the election of Rice, Tony Oliva deserves to be in the Hall. Playing in a pitching-heavy era second only to the dead-ball era, Oliva put up Rice-like numbers - and outperformed him in postseason hitting by a LONG ways. And they say &quot;Tony&#039;s career was too short&quot;. His peak of 8 years bested Sandy Koufax&#039;s by 3 seasons, and his overall career was a longer than several HoF inductees. 

BTW, Oliva&#039;s three postseason appearances were against the &#039;65 Dodgers (Koufax, Drysdale, Osteen) and the &#039;69-&#039;70 O&#039;s (Palmer, McNally, Cuellar, Dobson) and he batted over .300 in over 50 AB&#039;s against them, over .400 against that Dodger staff in &#039;65. He remains the only player to lead the league in hitting in his first two seasons, and he did it with power, too. I don&#039;t want to hear ANYBODY whine about ANY other player who&#039;s not in until Tony Oliva is in.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;4750&#039;,&#039;BJ Stone&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;4750&#039;,&#039;BJ Stone&#039;,&#039;Jim Rice. Wow. More than ever, thanks to the election of Rice, Tony Oliva deserves to be in the Hall. Playing in a pitching-heavy era second only to the dead-ball era, Oliva put up Rice-like numbers - and outperformed him in postseason hitting by a LONG ways. And they say \&quot;Tony\&#039;s career was too short\&quot;. His peak of 8 years bested Sandy Koufax\&#039;s by 3 seasons, and his overall career was a longer than several HoF inductees. \r\n\r\nBTW, Oliva\&#039;s three postseason appearances were against the \&#039;65 Dodgers (Koufax, Drysdale, Osteen) and the \&#039;69-\&#039;70 O\&#039;s (Palmer, McNally, Cuellar, Dobson) and he batted over .300 in over 50 AB\&#039;s against them, over .400 against that Dodger staff in \&#039;65. He remains the only player to lead the league in hitting in his first two seasons, and he did it with power, too. I don\&#039;t want to hear ANYBODY whine about ANY other player who\&#039;s not in until Tony Oliva is in.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim Rice. Wow. More than ever, thanks to the election of Rice, Tony Oliva deserves to be in the Hall. Playing in a pitching-heavy era second only to the dead-ball era, Oliva put up Rice-like numbers &#8211; and outperformed him in postseason hitting by a LONG ways. And they say &#8220;Tony&#8217;s career was too short&#8221;. His peak of 8 years bested Sandy Koufax&#8217;s by 3 seasons, and his overall career was a longer than several HoF inductees. </p>
<p>BTW, Oliva&#8217;s three postseason appearances were against the &#8217;65 Dodgers (Koufax, Drysdale, Osteen) and the &#8217;69-&#8217;70 O&#8217;s (Palmer, McNally, Cuellar, Dobson) and he batted over .300 in over 50 AB&#8217;s against them, over .400 against that Dodger staff in &#8217;65. He remains the only player to lead the league in hitting in his first two seasons, and he did it with power, too. I don&#8217;t want to hear ANYBODY whine about ANY other player who&#8217;s not in until Tony Oliva is in.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('4750','BJ Stone'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('4750','BJ Stone','Jim Rice. Wow. More than ever, thanks to the election of Rice, Tony Oliva deserves to be in the Hall. Playing in a pitching-heavy era second only to the dead-ball era, Oliva put up Rice-like numbers - and outperformed him in postseason hitting by a LONG ways. And they say \&quot;Tony\'s career was too short\&quot;. His peak of 8 years bested Sandy Koufax\'s by 3 seasons, and his overall career was a longer than several HoF inductees. \r\n\r\nBTW, Oliva\'s three postseason appearances were against the \'65 Dodgers (Koufax, Drysdale, Osteen) and the \'69-\'70 O\'s (Palmer, McNally, Cuellar, Dobson) and he batted over .300 in over 50 AB\'s against them, over .400 against that Dodger staff in \'65. He remains the only player to lead the league in hitting in his first two seasons, and he did it with power, too. I don\'t want to hear ANYBODY whine about ANY other player who\'s not in until Tony Oliva is in.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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