Seamheads Historical League Preview – Part 2 of 7 – National Association Division
Welcome back to the preview of the Seamheads Historical League.Â Today, we break down the National Association Division consisting of the four National League teams that initially found their roots in the defunct American Association.Â As a reminder about the lineups and rotations below, those are just projections and not the actual lineups that will be used once the season begins.
The four teams that make up the National Association Division are the Cincinnati Reds (originally the Cincinnati Red Stockings in 1882 then the Reds from 1890 to 1953 to the Redlegs from 1954 to 1959 and back to the Reds from 1960 on), the Pittsburgh Pirates (debuted as the Pittsburg Alleghenys in 1882 and changed to the Pirates in 1891), the St. Louis Cardinals (initially the St. Louis Brown Stockings in 1882 then the nickname was quickly shortened to the Browns in 1883 then changed to the Perfectos for the 1899 season before becoming the Cardinals in 1900) and the Los Angeles Dodgers (who suffered an identity crisis in Brooklyn — the Atlantics (1884), the Grays (1885-1887), the Bridegrooms (1888-1890), the Grooms (1891-1895), the Bridegrooms again (1896-1898), the Superbas (1899-1910), the Dodgers (1911-1912), the Superbas again (1913), the Robins (1914-1931) and back to the Dodgers for good (1932-1957) — then moved to Los Angeles in 1958).
CINCINNATI REDS (1882-2008, 5 World Championships, 10 Pennants, 12 Playoff Appearances)
GENERAL MANAGER: Andy Andres, BaseballHQ.com Data Analyst
Catchers (2): Johnny Bench, Ernie Lombardi
Infielders (10): Dave Concepcion, Heinie Groh, Ted Kluszewski, Barry Larkin, Bid McPhee, Joe Morgan, Tony Perez, Pete Rose, Joey Votto, Bill Werber
Outfielders (10): Sam Crawford, Eric Davis, George Foster, Harry Heilmann, Charley Jones, Frank McCormick, Kevin Mitchell, Frank Robinson, Edd Roush, Cy Seymour
Pitchers (18): Ewell Blackwell, Jeff Brantley, Clay Carroll, Paul Derringer, Rob Dibble, John Franco, Juan Guzman, Harvey Haddix, Noodles Hahn, Red Lucas, Dolf Luque, Gary Nolan, Jose Rijo, Tom Seaver, Jeff Shaw, Greg Swindell, Edinson Volquez, Scott Williamson
1. Pete Rose (3B)
2. Edd Roush (CF)
3. Joe Morgan (2B)
4. Johnny Bench (C)
5. Frank Robinson (LF)
6. Tony Perez (1B)
7. Barry Larkin (SS)
8. George Foster (RF)
1. Rose (3B)
2. Roush (CF)
3. Morgan (2B)
4. Bench (C)
5. F.Robinson (LF)
6. Ted Kluszewski (1B)
7. Larkin (SS)
8. Foster (RF)
Bench: Perez/Kluszewski, Ernie Lombardi, Bid McPhee, Bill Werber, Dave Concepcion, Eric Davis, Harry Heilmann
1. Noodles Hahn
2. Tom Seaver
3. Paul Derringer
4. Red Lucas
5. Jose Rijo
On the Farm: Sam Crawford, Joey Votto, Cy Seymour, Heinie Groh, Charley Jones, Frank McCormick, Kevin Mitchell, Harvey Haddix, Ewell Blackwell, Juan Guzman, Dolf Luque, Gary Nolan, Greg Swindell, Edinson Volquez, Scott Williamson
- Is Ernie Lombardi a better choice to start than Johnny Bench?
- When will Vada Pinson (not on the roster) finally catch a post-career break?
- With all the available closers, do the Reds just go bullpen by committee?
- Should Edd Roush or someone other than “Charlie Hustle” lead off?
- Speaking of Pete Rose, would he bet on this club to win?
LOS ANGELES DODGERS (1884-2008, 6 World Championships, 22 Pennants, 27 Playoff Appearances)
GENERAL MANAGER: Ron Kaplan, New Jersey Jewish News Editor
Catchers (5): Roy Campanella, Mike Piazza, Johnny Roseboro, Norm Sherry, Steve Yeager
Infielders (13): Dolph Camilli, Ron Cey, Billy Cox, Steve Garvey, Gil Hodges, Eric Karros, Jeff Kent, Davey Lopes, Pee Wee Reese, Jackie Robinson, Bill Russell, Steve Sax, Maury Wills
Outfielders (8): Dusty Baker, Willie Davis, Carl Furillo, Babe Herman, Manny Mota, Gary Sheffield, Duke Snider, Zack Wheat
Pitchers (14): Don Drysdale, Carl Erskine, Eric Gagne, Burleigh Grimes, Orel Hershiser, Sandy Koufax, Clem Labine, Don Newcombe, Claude Osteen, Ron Perranoski, Larry Sherry, Don Sutton, Fernando Valenzuela, Dazzy Vance
1. Davey Lopes (2B)
2. Gary Sheffield (RF)
3. Duke Snider (CF)
4. Dusty Baker (LF)
5. Roy Campanella (C)
6. Jackie Robinson (SS)
7. Steve Garvey (1B)
8. Ron Cey (3B)
1. Maury Wills (SS)
2. Babe Herman (RF)
3. Snider (CF)
4. Campanella (C)
5. Zack Wheat (LF)
6. J.Robinson (2B)
7. Dolph Camilli (1B)
8. Cey (3B)
Bench: Garvey/Camilli, Lopes/Wills, Baker/Wheat, Sheffield/Herman, Johnny Roseboro, Mike Piazza, Pee Wee Reese
1. Sandy Koufax
2. Orel Hershiser
3. Don Drysdale
4. Dazzy Vance
5. Don Newcombe
On the Farm: Billy Cox, Willie Davis, Carl Furillo, Gil Hodges, Eric Karros, Jeff Kent, Manny Mota, Bill Russell, Steve Sax, Norm Sherry, Steve Yeager, Fernando Valenzuela, Larry Sherry, Don Sutton, Carl Erskine
- Do you think Mike Marshall has an opinion as to why he isn’t on this team?
- Will Fernando Mania take over L.A. at some point?
- Is anyone else looking forward to Mike Piazza vs. any version of Roger Clemens in the game?
- Sure they are fast but are either Maury Wills or Davey Lopes the best option at the top of the lineup or is there someone else more worthy on the club?
- How much better would this team be if Campanella or Robinson were evaluated including their Negro League playing days?
PITTSBURGH PIRATES (1882-2008, 5 World Championships, 9 Pennants, 14 Playoff Appearances)
GENERAL MANAGER: Curt Schilling, Major League Pitcher (also a Seamheads Historical League Roster member)
Catchers (3): Jason Kendall, Tony Pena, Manny Sanguillen
Infielders (9): Bobby Bonilla, George Grantham, Dick Groat, Richie Hebner, Bill Mazeroski, Willie Stargell, Gus Suhr, Pie Traynor, Arky Vaughan, Honus Wagner
Outfielders (9): Barry Bonds, Max Carey, Roberto Clemente, Brian Giles, Ralph Kiner, Dave Parker, Andy Van Slyke, Lloyd Waner, Paul Waner
Pitchers (18): Babe Adams, Howie Camnitz, John Candelaria, Wilbur Cooper, Doug Drabek, Roy Face, Bob Friend, Dave Giusti, Ramon Hernandez, Ray Kremer, Sam Leever, Ed Morris, Deacon Phillippe, Rip Sewell, Jesse Tannehill, Kent Tekulve, Bob Veale, Vic Willis
1. Honus Wagner (SS)
2. Pie Traynor (3B)
3. Barry Bonds (LF)
4. Willie Stargell (1B)
5. Roberto Clemente (RF)
6. Max Carey (CF)
7. George Grantham (2B)
8. Tony Pena
1. Wagner (SS)
2. Grantham (2B)
3. Bonds (LF)
4. Stargell (1B)
5. Clemente (RF)
6. Richie Hebner (3B)
7. Andy Van Slyke (CF)
8. Pena (C)
Bench: Traynor/Hebner, Van Slyke/Carey, Jason Kendall, Gus Suhr, Arky Vaughan, Ralph Kiner, Paul Waner
1. Jesse Tannehill
2. Ed Morris
3. Deacon Phillippe
4. Sam Leever
5. Babe Adams
On the Farm: John Candelaria, Howie Camnitz, Doug Drabek, Bob Friend, Dave Giusti, Ray Kremer, Rip Sewell, Vic Willis, Manny Sanguillen, Lloyd Waner, Dave Parker, Dick Groat, Bobby Bonilla, Brian Giles, Bill Mazeroski
- Will the starting pitching depthÂ be whatÂ gives the Pirates the edge?
- Pittsburgh Bonds or San Francisco Bonds?
- Who is the best choice behind the plate?
- How much playing time does Arky Vaughan get?
- Does Bonds take time in center to give Ralph Kiner playing time and at what cost defensively?
ST. LOUIS CARDINALS (1882-2008, 10 World Championships, 21 Pennants, 26 Playoff Appearances)
GENERAL MANAGER: Dustin Mattison, “The Birdhouse” Writer/Blogger
Catchers (2): Walker Cooper, Ted Simmons
Infielders (12): Jim Bottomley, KenÂ Boyer, Frankie Frisch, Rogers Hornsby, Pepper Martin, Mark McGwire, Johnny Mize, Albert Pujols, Edgar Renteria, Red Schoendienst, Ozzie Smith, Garry Templeton, Joe Torre
Outfielders (5): Lou Brock, Jim Edmonds, Willie McGee, Stan Musial, Enos Slaughter
Pitchers (20): Al Brazle, Harry Brecheen, Ernie Broglio, Steve Carlton, Chris Carpenter, Mort Cooper, Dizzy Dean, Dennis Eckersley, Bob Gibson, Jesse Haines, Joe Hoerner, Jason Isringhausen, Jim Kaat, Howie Pollet, Slim Sallee, Lee Smith, Bruce Sutter, John Tudor, Todd Worrell, Cy Young
1. Lou Brock (LF)
2. Rogers Hornsby (3B)
3. Albert Pujols (1B)
4. Stan Musial (RF)
5. Willie McGee (CF)
6. Frankie Frisch (2B)
7. Walker Cooper (C)
8. Ozzie Smith (SS)
1. Brock (LF)
2. Hornsby (3B)
3. Pujols (1B)
4. Musial (RF)
5. Ted Simmons (C)
6. Frisch (2B)
7. Jim Edmonds (CF)
8. O.Smith (SS)
Bench: Cooper/Simmons, McGee/Edmonds, Johnny Mize, Red Schoendienst, Ken Boyer, Garry Templeton, Enos Slaughter
1. Bob Gibson
2. Cy Young
3. Dizzy Dean
4. Slim Sallee
5. Steve Carlton
On the Farm: Jim Bottomley, Pepper Martin, Mark McGwire, Edgar Renteria, Joe Torre, Al Brazle, Harry Brecheen, Joe Hoerner, Jim Kaat, Howie Pollet, Ernie Broglio, Chris Carpenter, Mort Cooper, Jason Isringhausen, Todd Worrell
- With so many choices, do the Cardinals pick the right closer?
- Behind Pujols, Mize and Bottomley, does Mark McGwire ever see the light of day?
- In center, is a platoon better or should one player take the job?
- Is Ozzie Smith a lock for the Gold Glove?
- Does this team have the most player/managers on the roster?
With the rosters recapped, here is the prediction:
Division MVP: Joe Morgan, Reds
Division Cy Young: Ed Morris, Pirates