Comments on: Let’s Hear Some Chatter Did Not Test Positive for Steroids http://seamheads.com/2009/08/05/lets-hear-some-chatter-did-not-test-positive-for-steroids/ Sat, 11 Feb 2012 00:40:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Josh Deitch http://seamheads.com/2009/08/05/lets-hear-some-chatter-did-not-test-positive-for-steroids/comment-page-1/#comment-13361 Josh Deitch Sat, 08 Aug 2009 16:00:55 +0000 http://seamheads.com/blog/2009/08/05/lets-hear-some-chatter-did-not-test-positive-for-steroids/#comment-13361 1) I didn't blame 2004 on the steroids...Giambi was on roids, A-Rod was on roids, Kevin Brown, the starter of game 7--roids. Of the 20-something people that participated in Game 7 of the ALCS, at least half were probably on something...like I said, the Sox just had the hook-up to the better stuff. 2) I think keeping players found guilty of using PEDs off the ballot until they reach the old-timers voting is a valid idea...that way you don't have condescending sportswriters voting based on their own notions of the "purity of the game" and it would be a form of punishment for players like Bonds and Clemens who would have been first ballot HoFers without the chemical enhancements. 3) Release the list...it's not doing anyone any good staying anonymous at this point...also, players were told they would be tested in 2003--like the specific date and time--that 104 of them still tested positive is absurd<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('13361','Josh Deitch'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('13361','Josh Deitch','1) I didn\'t blame 2004 on the steroids...Giambi was on roids, A-Rod was on roids, Kevin Brown, the starter of game 7--roids. Of the 20-something people that participated in Game 7 of the ALCS, at least half were probably on something...like I said, the Sox just had the hook-up to the better stuff.\r\n\r\n2) I think keeping players found guilty of using PEDs off the ballot until they reach the old-timers voting is a valid idea...that way you don\'t have condescending sportswriters voting based on their own notions of the \"purity of the game\" and it would be a form of punishment for players like Bonds and Clemens who would have been first ballot HoFers without the chemical enhancements.\r\n\r\n3) Release the list...it\'s not doing anyone any good staying anonymous at this point...also, players were told they would be tested in 2003--like the specific date and time--that 104 of them still tested positive is absurd'); return false;">Quote</a></div> 1) I didn’t blame 2004 on the steroids…Giambi was on roids, A-Rod was on roids, Kevin Brown, the starter of game 7–roids. Of the 20-something people that participated in Game 7 of the ALCS, at least half were probably on something…like I said, the Sox just had the hook-up to the better stuff.

2) I think keeping players found guilty of using PEDs off the ballot until they reach the old-timers voting is a valid idea…that way you don’t have condescending sportswriters voting based on their own notions of the “purity of the game” and it would be a form of punishment for players like Bonds and Clemens who would have been first ballot HoFers without the chemical enhancements.

3) Release the list…it’s not doing anyone any good staying anonymous at this point…also, players were told they would be tested in 2003–like the specific date and time–that 104 of them still tested positive is absurd

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]]> By: Mark Loeb http://seamheads.com/2009/08/05/lets-hear-some-chatter-did-not-test-positive-for-steroids/comment-page-1/#comment-13350 Mark Loeb Fri, 07 Aug 2009 04:41:10 +0000 http://seamheads.com/blog/2009/08/05/lets-hear-some-chatter-did-not-test-positive-for-steroids/#comment-13350 You can't blame the 2004 ALCS on juice! The Red Sox were down 3-nil, and cleanly took it from the Yankees. And your telling me know one on the '96-'01 Yankees rosters weren't on the sauce. Common. Loeb<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('13350','Mark Loeb'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('13350','Mark Loeb','You can\'t blame the 2004 ALCS on juice! The Red Sox were down 3-nil, and cleanly took it from the Yankees. And your telling me know one on the \'96-\'01 Yankees rosters weren\'t on the sauce. Common. \r\n\r\nLoeb'); return false;">Quote</a></div> You can’t blame the 2004 ALCS on juice! The Red Sox were down 3-nil, and cleanly took it from the Yankees. And your telling me know one on the ’96-’01 Yankees rosters weren’t on the sauce. Common.

Loeb

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]]> By: Ariel http://seamheads.com/2009/08/05/lets-hear-some-chatter-did-not-test-positive-for-steroids/comment-page-1/#comment-13346 Ariel Thu, 06 Aug 2009 20:36:10 +0000 http://seamheads.com/blog/2009/08/05/lets-hear-some-chatter-did-not-test-positive-for-steroids/#comment-13346 I agree about the problem not letting them in, but this is considered cheating just like Pete Rose did... cheating is cheating. There should be some form of future punishment made on these records that these players have, maybe they're suspended from being on the ballots for a few years i dunno. But they've tainted the idea of baseball and i'm not so angry about the steroid use but what it's done to my image of the past 15 years i've watched baseball.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('13346','Ariel'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('13346','Ariel','I agree about the problem not letting them in, but this is considered cheating just like Pete Rose did... cheating is cheating. There should be some form of future punishment made on these records that these players have, maybe they\'re suspended from being on the ballots for a few years i dunno. But they\'ve tainted the idea of baseball and i\'m not so angry about the steroid use but what it\'s done to my image of the past 15 years i\'ve watched baseball.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I agree about the problem not letting them in, but this is considered cheating just like Pete Rose did… cheating is cheating. There should be some form of future punishment made on these records that these players have, maybe they’re suspended from being on the ballots for a few years i dunno. But they’ve tainted the idea of baseball and i’m not so angry about the steroid use but what it’s done to my image of the past 15 years i’ve watched baseball.
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]]> By: Todd Civin http://seamheads.com/2009/08/05/lets-hear-some-chatter-did-not-test-positive-for-steroids/comment-page-1/#comment-13345 Todd Civin Thu, 06 Aug 2009 17:19:38 +0000 http://seamheads.com/blog/2009/08/05/lets-hear-some-chatter-did-not-test-positive-for-steroids/#comment-13345 Well done as always..Shame that this won't go away. I'm with you however. If users aren't allowed in, then we may just go the next two decades only electing announcers and umpires into the Hall.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('13345','Todd Civin'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('13345','Todd Civin','Well done as always..Shame that this won\'t go away. I\'m with you however. If users aren\'t allowed in, then we may just go the next two decades only electing announcers and umpires into the Hall.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Well done as always..Shame that this won’t go away. I’m with you however. If users aren’t allowed in, then we may just go the next two decades only electing announcers and umpires into the Hall.
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]]> By: Cary Allen http://seamheads.com/2009/08/05/lets-hear-some-chatter-did-not-test-positive-for-steroids/comment-page-1/#comment-13341 Cary Allen Wed, 05 Aug 2009 19:47:47 +0000 http://seamheads.com/blog/2009/08/05/lets-hear-some-chatter-did-not-test-positive-for-steroids/#comment-13341 First thing: MLBPA consents to release of 2003 test results so the wheat can be separated from the chaff.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('13341','Cary Allen'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('13341','Cary Allen','First thing: MLBPA consents to release of 2003 test results so the wheat can be separated from the chaff.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> First thing: MLBPA consents to release of 2003 test results so the wheat can be separated from the chaff.
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