Comments on: Rating the 2010 Hall of Fame Candidates Based on Win Shares http://seamheads.com/2009/12/21/rating-the-2010-hall-of-fame-candidates-based-on-win-shares/ Wed, 23 May 2012 23:56:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: SJ http://seamheads.com/2009/12/21/rating-the-2010-hall-of-fame-candidates-based-on-win-shares/comment-page-1/#comment-15849 SJ Wed, 06 Jan 2010 15:44:42 +0000 http://seamheads.com/blog/2009/12/21/rating-the-2010-hall-of-fame-candidates-based-on-win-shares/#comment-15849 The article gives total Win Shares for inductees since 2000 but none of them are starting pitchers. How does Blyleven's 339 Win Shares compare to the starting pitchers in the Hall of Fame? Anyone have a brief list? Thanks.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('15849','SJ'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('15849','SJ','The article gives total Win Shares for inductees since 2000 but none of them are starting pitchers. How does Blyleven\'s 339 Win Shares compare to the starting pitchers in the Hall of Fame? Anyone have a brief list? Thanks.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> The article gives total Win Shares for inductees since 2000 but none of them are starting pitchers. How does Blyleven’s 339 Win Shares compare to the starting pitchers in the Hall of Fame? Anyone have a brief list? Thanks.
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]]> By: Tom Stone http://seamheads.com/2009/12/21/rating-the-2010-hall-of-fame-candidates-based-on-win-shares/comment-page-1/#comment-15769 Tom Stone Sat, 26 Dec 2009 17:56:45 +0000 http://seamheads.com/blog/2009/12/21/rating-the-2010-hall-of-fame-candidates-based-on-win-shares/#comment-15769 I agree that Trammell was a good player. But I don't support him for the HOF. One question I always ask on this issue is this: why did his DP partner Lou Whitaker not even get the 5% vote required to stay on the ballot? Is Trammell's resume that much better than Whitaker's? They are both middle infielders, played during almost exactly the same years, and even on the same team. Is Trammell really that much better than Whitaker? Do Trammell supporters just draw a very marginal line of HOF-worthiness that happens to cut between these two players? Or do Trammell supporters also support Whitaker and consider his being dropped so early a travesty?<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('15769','Tom Stone'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('15769','Tom Stone','I agree that Trammell was a good player. But I don\'t support him for the HOF. One question I always ask on this issue is this: why did his DP partner Lou Whitaker not even get the 5% vote required to stay on the ballot? Is Trammell\'s resume that much better than Whitaker\'s? They are both middle infielders, played during almost exactly the same years, and even on the same team. Is Trammell really that much better than Whitaker? Do Trammell supporters just draw a very marginal line of HOF-worthiness that happens to cut between these two players? Or do Trammell supporters also support Whitaker and consider his being dropped so early a travesty?'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I agree that Trammell was a good player. But I don’t support him for the HOF. One question I always ask on this issue is this: why did his DP partner Lou Whitaker not even get the 5% vote required to stay on the ballot? Is Trammell’s resume that much better than Whitaker’s? They are both middle infielders, played during almost exactly the same years, and even on the same team. Is Trammell really that much better than Whitaker? Do Trammell supporters just draw a very marginal line of HOF-worthiness that happens to cut between these two players? Or do Trammell supporters also support Whitaker and consider his being dropped so early a travesty?
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]]> By: Mike Lynch http://seamheads.com/2009/12/21/rating-the-2010-hall-of-fame-candidates-based-on-win-shares/comment-page-1/#comment-15740 Mike Lynch Thu, 24 Dec 2009 18:29:48 +0000 http://seamheads.com/blog/2009/12/21/rating-the-2010-hall-of-fame-candidates-based-on-win-shares/#comment-15740 I don't want to step on Bill's toes, but the information I have has Larkin rated slightly ahead of Trammell. Bill James gave Larkin an "A" on defense and Trammell a "B-." According to James' book, Trammell had 92.59 fielding Win Shares in 20 seasons, while Larkin had 92.09 in 19, which comes out to averages of 4.63 per season for Trammell and 4.85 per season for Larkin.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('15740','Mike Lynch'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('15740','Mike Lynch','I don\'t want to step on Bill\'s toes, but the information I have has Larkin rated slightly ahead of Trammell. Bill James gave Larkin an \"A\" on defense and Trammell a \"B-.\" According to James\' book, Trammell had 92.59 fielding Win Shares in 20 seasons, while Larkin had 92.09 in 19, which comes out to averages of 4.63 per season for Trammell and 4.85 per season for Larkin.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I don’t want to step on Bill’s toes, but the information I have has Larkin rated slightly ahead of Trammell. Bill James gave Larkin an “A” on defense and Trammell a “B-.” According to James’ book, Trammell had 92.59 fielding Win Shares in 20 seasons, while Larkin had 92.09 in 19, which comes out to averages of 4.63 per season for Trammell and 4.85 per season for Larkin.
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]]> By: SJ http://seamheads.com/2009/12/21/rating-the-2010-hall-of-fame-candidates-based-on-win-shares/comment-page-1/#comment-15739 SJ Thu, 24 Dec 2009 17:38:06 +0000 http://seamheads.com/blog/2009/12/21/rating-the-2010-hall-of-fame-candidates-based-on-win-shares/#comment-15739 Do you know how Trammell and Larkin compare as defensive players, by Win Shares or by any other method? Thanks.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('15739','SJ'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('15739','SJ','Do you know how Trammell and Larkin compare as defensive players, by Win Shares or by any other method? Thanks.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Do you know how Trammell and Larkin compare as defensive players, by Win Shares or by any other method? Thanks.
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]]> By: Bill Gilbert http://seamheads.com/2009/12/21/rating-the-2010-hall-of-fame-candidates-based-on-win-shares/comment-page-1/#comment-15679 Bill Gilbert Tue, 22 Dec 2009 04:53:59 +0000 http://seamheads.com/blog/2009/12/21/rating-the-2010-hall-of-fame-candidates-based-on-win-shares/#comment-15679 I agree that Trammell is a borderline candidate and he obviously is not going to be elected by the BBWAA. He was a favorite of mine, especially in the 1984 World Series and I think a caes can be made that he is among the top dozen shortstops<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('15679','Bill Gilbert'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('15679','Bill Gilbert','I agree that Trammell is a borderline candidate and he obviously is not going to be elected by the BBWAA. He was a favorite of mine, especially in the 1984 World Series and I think a caes can be made that he is among the top dozen shortstops'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I agree that Trammell is a borderline candidate and he obviously is not going to be elected by the BBWAA. He was a favorite of mine, especially in the 1984 World Series and I think a caes can be made that he is among the top dozen shortstops
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]]> By: Devon Young http://seamheads.com/2009/12/21/rating-the-2010-hall-of-fame-candidates-based-on-win-shares/comment-page-1/#comment-15676 Devon Young Tue, 22 Dec 2009 02:20:38 +0000 http://seamheads.com/blog/2009/12/21/rating-the-2010-hall-of-fame-candidates-based-on-win-shares/#comment-15676 Love this analysis. I'm interested in why you'd vote for Trammell. I feel like he's just short of HOF.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('15676','Devon Young'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('15676','Devon Young','Love this analysis. \r\n\r\nI\'m interested in why you\'d vote for Trammell. I feel like he\'s just short of HOF.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Love this analysis.

I’m interested in why you’d vote for Trammell. I feel like he’s just short of HOF.

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