{"id":1192,"date":"2009-05-10T06:00:11","date_gmt":"2009-05-10T13:00:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/seamheads.com\/blog\/2009\/05\/10\/manny-and-the-hall-of-fame\/"},"modified":"2009-05-10T06:01:06","modified_gmt":"2009-05-10T13:01:06","slug":"manny-and-the-hall-of-fame","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/seamheads.com\/blog\/2009\/05\/10\/manny-and-the-hall-of-fame\/","title":{"rendered":"Manny and the Hall of Fame"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Manny Ramirez has now joined those other superstars who have been tainted by the \u00e2\u20ac\u0153steroids scandal.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d  And the obvious question in some peoples\u00e2\u20ac\u2122 minds is what effect will this have on his chances for induction into the Hall of Fame.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>Based on the only evidence available at this time, the answer is very simple: <strong>He has no chance for induction into Cooperstown by the BBWAA.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Recently, over at Baseball Fever\/Hall of Fame Talk, during a discussion about Manny\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s suspension, one fan posted the following:<\/p>\n<p><em>\u00e2\u20ac\u0153Barry Bonds<br \/>\nMark McGwire<br \/>\nAlex Rodriguez<br \/>\nRafael Palmeiro<br \/>\nManny Ramirez<br \/>\nGary Sheffield<br \/>\nRoger Clemens<br \/>\nSammy Sosa (maybe?)<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>I can&#8217;t believe all of these guys might be kept out of the Hall of Fame&#8230; wow&#8230;\u00e2\u20ac\u009d<\/em><\/p>\n<p>These are some of the greatest players of the past twenty years according to their numbers.  According to the CAWS Career Gauge, Barry Bonds is the second greatest position player of the 20th century (behind only Babe Ruth).  And Roger Clemens is the greatest right-handed pitcher of the modern era (1920-present).<\/p>\n<p>So, yes, it is hard to believe that all of these players could be rejected by the writers for induction.  But any other conclusion at this point in time would go against the little evidence that we have before us.  The only logical conclusion at the moment is that <strong>none of these players will be elected by the BBWAA<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>I am not arguing one way or the other as to what should happen.  What I am saying is that this is <strong>the only conclusion that we can reach at this time.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>What EVIDENCE am I talking about?  Only one \u00e2\u20ac\u0153steroids superstar\u00e2\u20ac\u009d has become eligible for induction into the Hall so far and that is Mark McGwire.  You remember him, don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t you?  He was the most popular baseball player on the planet in 1998 and considered a shoo-in for the Hall \u00e2\u20ac\u201c probably on the first ballot.<\/p>\n<p>But then reality set in.  Big Mac was forever tarnished by steroids allegations and by the time he became eligible for the Hall in 2007, his reputation was shot.  In 2007, he received 24% of the vote for induction \u00e2\u20ac\u201c nowhere near what his numbers merited.<\/p>\n<p>In 2008, I waited with anticipation to see what would happen.  He received the exact same number of votes (128) as in 2007.  Things did not look good for Mac.<\/p>\n<p>But the final verdict (I believe) was delivered in 2009.  In his third year of eligibility, McGwire received 118 votes, 10 fewer than in 2008.  That has sealed the deal \u00e2\u20ac\u201c Big Mac will not be elected to the Hall of Fame.<\/p>\n<p>Does this voting pattern have anything to do with Mark McGwire the man?  I do not think so.  I believe it has to do with McGwire the alleged \u00e2\u20ac\u0153steroids user.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d  <strong>And this will be the same experience for any alleged \u00e2\u20ac\u0153steroid user\u00e2\u20ac\u009d when he comes onto the ballot<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>Can anyone think of a reason why a voter who would not vote for Mark McGwire would vote for Barry Bonds or Roger Clemens or Manny Ramirez?  Because their numbers were better?  Do you really think that will make a difference?  I do not.<\/p>\n<p>So, I think we have to realistically say &#8211; <strong>Sorry, Manny.  The final verdict has been rendered by the writers:  If you are an alleged steroids user, you will not be elected to the Hall of Fame by the BBWAA.<\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Manny Ramirez has now joined those other superstars who have been tainted by the \u00e2\u20ac\u0153steroids scandal.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d And the obvious question in some peoples\u00e2\u20ac\u2122 minds is what effect will this have on his chances for induction into the Hall of Fame.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":18,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[19],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1192","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-prof-hobans-hall-of-fame-blog"],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/seamheads.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1192","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/seamheads.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/seamheads.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/seamheads.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/18"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/seamheads.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1192"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/seamheads.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1192\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/seamheads.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1192"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/seamheads.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1192"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/seamheads.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1192"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}