{"id":16627,"date":"2011-09-12T17:16:35","date_gmt":"2011-09-13T00:16:35","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/seamheads.com\/?p=16627"},"modified":"2011-09-13T00:29:19","modified_gmt":"2011-09-13T07:29:19","slug":"the-hall-of-famers-the-5-levels-of-greatness-part-3","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/seamheads.com\/blog\/2011\/09\/12\/the-hall-of-famers-the-5-levels-of-greatness-part-3\/","title":{"rendered":"The Hall of Famers: The 5 Levels of Greatness – Part 3"},"content":{"rendered":"

In this article, I will present the Level 3 and Level 4 position players.  There were a total of thirty-one (31) players in Levels 1 and 2 – the position players with the best careers of the 20th<\/sup> century.  In Levels 3 and 4, we have the fifty-seven (57) next best careers of the century – twenty-five (25) in Level 3 and thirty-two (32) in Level 4.<\/p>\n

Level 3  -  Players with a CAWS score > 300 & <330<\/strong><\/p>\n

Here are the twenty-five great position players whose rank for career value in the 20th<\/sup> century is from #32 to #56.  They each have a CAWS score of better than 300 but less than 330.  This means that there are only fifty-six (56) position players since 1901 who achieved a CAWS career score of 300 or better.<\/p>\n

All numbers include the 2010 season<\/p>\n

Bold  =  Hall of Famer<\/strong>
\nCWS  =  Career Win Shares
\nCV      =  Core Value (sum of win shares for 10 best seasons)
\nCAWS  =  Career Assessment\/Win Shares  =  CV  +  .25(CWS – CV)
\n*  =  deadball era<\/p>\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n
<\/td>\nPlayer<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\nPOS. <\/strong><\/span><\/td>\nCWS<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\nCV<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\nCAWS<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
32.<\/td>\nCraig Biggio<\/span><\/td>\n2B<\/span><\/td>\n428<\/span><\/td>\n294<\/span><\/td>\n328<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
33.<\/td>\nFrank Thomas<\/span><\/td>\n1B<\/span><\/td>\n400<\/span><\/td>\n301<\/span><\/td>\n326<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
34.<\/strong><\/td>\nArky Vaughan<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\nSS<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n356<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n308<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n320<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
35.<\/strong><\/td>\nWade Boggs<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n3B<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n394<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n291<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n317<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
36.<\/strong><\/td>\nWillie McCovey<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n1B<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n408<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n285<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n316<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
37.<\/td>\nManny Ramirez
\n<\/span><\/td>\n		LF<\/span><\/td>\n408<\/span><\/td>\n285<\/span><\/td>\n316<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
38.<\/td>\nDick Allen<\/span><\/td>\n1B<\/span><\/td>\n342<\/span><\/td>\n304<\/span><\/td>\n314<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
39.<\/strong><\/td>\nEddie Murray<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n1B<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n437<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n273<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n314<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
40.<\/strong><\/td>\nCal Ripken Jr.<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\nSS<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n427<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n276<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n314<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
41.<\/strong><\/td>\nRobin Yount<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\nSS<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n423<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n278<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n314<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
42.<\/td>\nJeff Bagwell<\/span><\/td>\n1B<\/span><\/td>\n388<\/span><\/td>\n287<\/span><\/td>\n312<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
43.<\/strong><\/td>\nAl Kaline<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\nRF<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n443<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n268<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n312<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
44.<\/td>\nKen Griffey Jr.<\/span><\/td>\nCF<\/span><\/td>\n383<\/span><\/td>\n278<\/span><\/td>\n304<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
45.<\/strong><\/td>\nJohnny Mize<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n1B<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n339<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n296<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n307<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
46.<\/strong><\/td>\nCharlie Gehringer<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n2B<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n383<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n280<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n306<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
47.<\/strong><\/td>\nPaul Molitor<\/span><\/strong><\/td>\nDH<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n414<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n270<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n306<\/span><\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
48.<\/strong><\/td>\nFred Clarke*<\/span><\/strong><\/td>\nLF<\/span><\/strong><\/td>\n400<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n273<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n305<\/span><\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
49.<\/strong><\/td>\nDuke Snider<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\nCF<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n352<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n289<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n305<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
50.<\/td>\nTim Raines<\/span><\/td>\nLF<\/span><\/td>\n390<\/span><\/td>\n275<\/span><\/td>\n304<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
51.<\/strong><\/td>\nHarmon Killebrew<\/span><\/strong><\/td>\n1B<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n374<\/span><\/strong><\/td>\n279<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n303<\/span><\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
52.<\/strong><\/td>\nBilly Williams<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\nLF<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n374<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n279<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n303<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
53.<\/strong><\/td>\nRoberto Alomar <\/span><\/strong><\/td>\n2B<\/span><\/strong><\/td>\n375<\/span><\/strong><\/td>\n278<\/span><\/strong><\/td>\n302<\/span><\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
54.<\/strong><\/td>\nLuke Appling<\/span><\/strong><\/td>\nSS<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n378<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n275<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n301<\/span>
\n<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
55.<\/strong><\/td>\nYogi Berra<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\nC<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n375<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n276<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n301<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
56.<\/strong><\/td>\nAl Simmons<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\nLF<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n375<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n276<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n301<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n\n\n\n\n
<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n

The twenty-five (25) Level 3 players are interesting for a number of reasons.  For one thing, seven of them are not yet in the Hall of Fame.  Two are currently on the HOF ballot (2011):  Jeff Bagwell and Tim Raines.  Four others are not yet eligible: Craig Biggio, Frank Thomas, Manny Ramirez and Ken Griffey Jr.  And one of these players becomes the highest-ranked position player of the century who has been passed over for election to the Hall of Fame: <\/em>Dick Allen.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

Most fans are familiar with why Dick Allen is not in the Hall.  There are those who believe that he had “an attitude problem” and was a “cancer in the clubhouse.”  And, of course, most of this is hearsay.  Whether his exclusion is just or unjust, there is one clear fact – Dick Allen has the best career numbers of any player since 1901 who has been excluded from the Hall of Fame<\/em> (with the exception of Pete Rose who has been formally banned from consideration).  I have a concern that Tim Raines may also fall prey to the same fate.  Let us hope not.<\/p>\n

Level 3 also contains the first catcher to appear on the lists: Yogi Berra.  Johnny Bench at a CAWS score of 297 (in Level 4) is fairly close behind.  Note also that the first designated hitters with outstanding careers are in Level 3: Frank Thomas and Paul Molitor.<\/p>\n

Only three players on this list have a core value (CV) of 300 or better: Frank Thomas, Arky Vaughan and Dick Allen.  That means that for their ten best seasons, each of these players averaged better than 30 win shares per season.  That is a remarkable achievement.  Only thirty-one (31) position players of the 20th<\/sup> century have accomplished this feat.<\/em><\/p>\n

Here is the breakdown of these top fifty-six (56) players by position: twenty-seven (27) outfielders, nine (9) first basemen, seven (7) second basemen, six (6) shortstops, four (4) third basemen, two (2) designated hitters and one (1) catcher.<\/p>\n

This ranking also serves to give some needed recognition to some recent players who might be considered “underappreciated” as they have become (or will become) eligible for election to the Hall: Craig Biggio, Frank Thomas, Jeff Bagwell and Tim Raines.<\/p>\n

Level 4 contains the names of the thirty-two players whose CAWS career score is 280 or better but less than 300.  A score of 280 is the HOF benchmark for left fielders, right fielders, first basemen and designated hitters.  Level 5 (the last level) will include the names of those players at other positions who did not reach a score of 280 but did reach the benchmark for their respective positions.<\/p>\n

All numbers include the 2010 season<\/p>\n

Bold  =  Hall of Famer<\/strong>
\nCWS  =  Career Win Shares
\nCV      =  Core Value (sum of win shares for 10 best seasons)
\nCAWS  =  Career Assessment\/Win Shares  =  CV  +  .25(CWS – CV)
\n*  =  deadball era<\/p>\n

Level 4  -  Players with a CAWS score > 280 & <300<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n
<\/td>\nPlayer<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\nPOS. <\/strong><\/span><\/td>\nCWS<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\nCV<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\nCAWS<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
57.<\/td>\nChipper Jones<\/span>
\n<\/em><\/td>\n		3B<\/span>
\n<\/em><\/td>\n		382<\/span>
\n<\/em><\/td>\n		271<\/span>
\n<\/em><\/td>\n		299<\/span>
\n<\/em><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
58.<\/td>\nMark McGwire<\/span><\/td>\n1B<\/span><\/td>\n342<\/span><\/td>\n283<\/span><\/td>\n298<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
59.<\/strong><\/td>\nDave Winfield<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\nRF<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n415<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n259<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n298<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
60.<\/strong><\/td>\nJohnny Bench<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\nC<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n356<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n277<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n297<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
61.<\/td>\nDerek Jeter<\/span><\/td>\nSS<\/span><\/td>\n301<\/span><\/td>\n264<\/span><\/td>\n273<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
62.<\/strong><\/td>\nRoberto Clemente<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\nRF<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n377<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n269<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n296<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
63.<\/strong><\/td>\nRyne Sandberg<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n2B<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n346<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n278<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n295<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
64.<\/strong><\/td>\nTony Gwynn<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\nRF<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n398<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n269<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n294<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
65.<\/td>\nSherry Magee*<\/span><\/td>\nLF<\/span><\/td>\n354<\/span><\/td>\n272<\/span><\/td>\n293<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
66.<\/strong><\/td>\nZack Wheat*<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\nLF<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n380<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n264<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n293<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
67.<\/td>\nJim Thome<\/span><\/td>\n1B<\/span><\/td>\n366<\/span><\/td>\n267<\/span><\/td>\n292<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
68.<\/strong><\/td>\nGeorge Davis*<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\nSS<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n398<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n255<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n291<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
69.<\/td>\nJoe Jackson*<\/span><\/td>\nLF<\/span><\/td>\n294<\/span><\/td>\n290<\/span><\/td>\n291<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
70.<\/strong><\/td>\nJoe Cronin<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\nSS<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n333<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n275<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n290<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
71.<\/td>\nRafael Palmeiro<\/span><\/td>\n1B<\/span><\/td>\n387<\/span><\/td>\n257<\/span><\/td>\n290<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
72.<\/strong><\/td>\nWillie Stargell<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\nLF<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n370<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n263<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n290<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
73.<\/strong><\/td>\nRod Carew<\/span><\/strong><\/td>\n2B<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n384<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n257<\/span><\/strong><\/td>\n289<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
74.<\/strong><\/td>\nHarry Heilmann<\/span><\/strong><\/td>\nRF<\/span><\/strong><\/td>\n356<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n267<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n289<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
75.<\/td>\nRon Santo<\/span><\/td>\n3B<\/span><\/td>\n324<\/span><\/td>\n275<\/span><\/td>\n287<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
76.<\/td>\nBill Dahlen*<\/span><\/td>\nSS<\/span><\/td>\n394<\/span><\/td>\n250<\/span><\/td>\n286<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
77.<\/strong><\/td>\nGoose Goslin<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\nLF<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n355<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n263<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n286<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
78.<\/td>\nMike Piazza<\/span><\/td>\nC<\/span><\/td>\n325<\/span><\/td>\n273<\/span><\/td>\n286<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
79.<\/strong><\/td>\nFrank Baker*<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n3B<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n301<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n280<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n285<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
80.<\/strong><\/td>\nLou Brock <\/strong><\/span><\/td>\nLF<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n348<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n264<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n285<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
81.<\/td>\nWill Clark<\/span><\/td>\n1B<\/span><\/td>\n331<\/span><\/td>\n269<\/span><\/td>\n285<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
82.<\/strong><\/td>\nFrankie Frisch<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n2B<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n366<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n256<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n284<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
83.<\/td>\nBobby Abreu<\/span>
\n<\/em><\/td>\n		RF<\/span>
\n<\/em><\/td>\n		332<\/span>
\n<\/em><\/td>\n		266<\/span>
\n<\/em><\/td>\n		283<\/span>
\n<\/em><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
84.<\/strong><\/td>\nElmer Flick*<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\nRF<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n291<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n280<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n283<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
85.<\/strong><\/td>\nGary Carter<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\nC<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n337<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n263<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n282<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
86.<\/td>\nJason Giambi <\/span><\/td>\n1B<\/span><\/td>\n315<\/span><\/td>\n271<\/span><\/td>\n282<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
87.<\/td>\nDarrell Evans<\/span><\/td>\n3B<\/span><\/td>\n363<\/span><\/td>\n253<\/span><\/td>\n281<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
88.<\/td>\nBarry Larkin<\/span><\/td>\nSS<\/span><\/td>\n347<\/span><\/td>\n258<\/span><\/td>\n280<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n\n\n\n\n
<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n

Keep in mind that all of these players have HOF numbers<\/strong> according to the strict and tough standards of the CAWS Career Gauge.  And only one hundred sixteen (116) position players in the 20th<\/sup> century qualify under those standards.<\/em><\/p>\n

Some observations:<\/p>\n

    \n
  1.  Note the active players (in 2010) on this list.  Chipper Jones, Derek Jeter and Jim Thome may not be big surprises.  But what about Bobby Abreu and Jason Giambi?<\/li>\n
  2. On this list, Sherry Magee and Bill Dahlen from the deadball era have been eligible and passed over for election to the Hall of Fame.<\/li>\n
  3. And only three other players on this list have been eligible for election and have so far been snubbed: Ron Santo, Will Clark and Darrell Evans.<\/li>\n
  4. The three catchers on this list join Yogi Berra as the only four to achieve a CAWS career score of 280: Yogi Berra, Johnny Bench, Mike Piazza and Gary Carter.  Did you think that Carter’s career numbers would rank him that high among the catchers?<\/li>\n
  5. These numbers indicate that Chipper Jones is the third baseman with the #5 best career numbers in the century and Derek Jeter is the #7 best shortstop.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

    Levels 1 through 4 contain the names of the eighty-eight (88) position players (since 1901) with the highest CAWS career scores (280 or better) – that is, the best career numbers.  But there are one hundred sixteen (116) position players who posted Hall of Fame numbers during this time frame.  So, who are the other twenty-eight (28)?<\/p>\n

    In Part 4 of this series, we will look at Level 5 (the last level) and that list will contain the names of those twenty-eight (28) players who did not reach a CAWS score of 280 but did post HOF numbers according to the benchmark for their position.  In Part 4, I will also list the names of the forty-seven (47) major league position players who are currently in the Hall of Fame but who do not have the career numbers to be there according to the CAWS Career Gauge.<\/p>\n

    Thanks for your time.<\/p>\n

    Mike Hoban
    \nProfessor Emeritus – City U of NY
    \nAuthor of A GOOD CAWS: A Hall of Fame Handbook<\/strong> (2011)
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