{"id":23535,"date":"2013-03-24T16:30:24","date_gmt":"2013-03-24T23:30:24","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/seamheads.com\/?p=23535"},"modified":"2013-03-27T19:05:28","modified_gmt":"2013-03-28T02:05:28","slug":"fair-trade","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/seamheads.com\/blog\/2013\/03\/24\/fair-trade\/","title":{"rendered":"Fair Trade?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>March 17, 2013 something bizarre occurred in major league baseball.&#160; Mike Cisco, the grand son of Galen Cisco, former MLB pitcher, and pitching coach , was traded to the Los Angeles Angels.&#160; So, what was so unusual about that?&#160; The Angels acquired the Philadelphia pitching prospect for nothing!<\/p>\n<p>Mike Cisco, a prospect, pitched at Reading and Lehigh Valley for the Phillies last season for a combined 5-3, 1.80 record as a relief pitcher.&#160; I was actually at a game where he pitched for the Lehigh Valley Iron Pigs.<\/p>\n<p>Mike Cisco&#8217;s reaction was, &#8220;I don&#8217;t really know what that is all about.&#160; I&#8217;ve heard some things about that, but whatever it was for, or even if it was for nothing at all, the Angels expressed interest in having me on their team.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>One explanation was that Cisco was stuck in the Phillies farm system.&#160; So, the Phillies front office was doing him a favor?&#160; Trading him for nothing?&#160; Sounds a little embarrassing to me.<\/p>\n<p>When this story broke, I immediately thought of Dickie Noles, another former Philly pitcher.&#160; Noles was a hero of the 1980 World Series between the Phillies and Royals.&#160; Okay, maybe not a hero but he played a significant role in the series.&#160; Dickie relieved Larry Christenson in the first inning of game four, Philadelphia down 4-0 against Kansas City.&#160; Noles went on to toss 4 2\/3 innings, giving up one more run.&#160; But the turning point of the game and what is considered the series was a fastball that he threw under George Brett&#8217;s chin, prompting a warning from the umpires, Brett struck out.&#160; The Philles won the series four games to two.&#160; But seven years later, Noles became known for another event.<\/p>\n<p>On September 21, 1987, the Chicago Cubs traded pitcher Dickie Noles to the Detroit Tigers for a player to be named later.&#160; Before the trade, Noles, at the age of 30, had a record of 4-2, 2 saves and 3.50 earned run average.&#160; He appeared in four games with Detroit recording a 0-0, 2 saves, 4.50 earned run average in two innings.&#160; That year, the Tigers were involved in a fierce battle with the Toronto Blue Jays.&#160; The Tigers won the American League East over the Toronto Blue Jays by two games.&#160; They lost to the Minnesota Twins in the ALCS.<\/p>\n<p>When Chicago and Detroit could not agree on the player to be named later, the Tigers sent back Dickie Noles.&#160; Essentially being traded for himself.&#160; At the time, he was the third player to be a part of such a strange deal.&#160; The others were Harry Chiti of the New York Mets in 1962 and Brad Gulden of the New York Yankees in 1980.&#160; The fourth player to have this occur was John McDonald who was also traded to the Detroit Tigers on July 22, 2005.<\/p>\n<p>While the Noles&#8217; trade seemed fair, it actually was not.&#160; Think about, Noles was a 30-year-old pitcher with a 4-2 and two saves with a 3.50 ERA when he was traded.&#160; When the Cubs received him back on November 23, 1987, he was 31 years old and with a higher ERA of 3.53.<\/p>\n<p>The first time this type of trade was made involved Harry Chiti.&#160; The Cleveland Indians to the expansion New York Mets traded him on April 25, although he had not played for them yet.&#160; Harry was sent back to the Indians on June 15, 1962.&#160; He batted .195 in 15 games.&#160; When he was traded back for him self, he never played another game in the MLB, he played two more in AAA until retiring in 1964.<\/p>\n<p>After Thurman Munson died in a plane crash, two young Yankee catchers were being counted on to fill the former captain&#8217;s shoes.&#160; On August 3, 1979, Brad Gulden replaced Jerry Narron in the ninth inning; 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In 1986, he played in 17 games for San Francisco with no homers, 1 run batted in and an average of .091.<\/p>\n<p>The fourth player that was traded for them was infielder John McDonald.&#160; He debuted with the Cleveland Indians in 1999.&#160; On July 22, 2005 John was traded to the Tigers by Toronto for future considerations.&#160; He started with the season with Toronto and in 37 games he batted .290, whereas he played 31 games for Detroit and batted .260.&#160; When he returned to Toronto, he played in over hundred games the following two seasons.&#160; He is still playing and was just picked up by the Pittsburgh Pirates for 2013.<\/p>\n<p>While all of the players mentioned, share the same unique distinction, they are also true to themselves.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>March 17, 2013 something bizarre occurred in major league baseball.&#160; Mike Cisco, the grand son of Galen Cisco, former MLB pitcher, and pitching coach , was traded to the Los Angeles Angels.&#160; So, what was so unusual about that?&#160; The Angels acquired the Philadelphia pitching prospect for nothing! 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