{"id":4456,"date":"2010-04-21T15:09:56","date_gmt":"2010-04-21T22:09:56","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.seamheads.com\/?p=4456"},"modified":"2010-04-26T10:05:14","modified_gmt":"2010-04-26T17:05:14","slug":"just-how-good-is-derek-jeter","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/seamheads.com\/blog\/2010\/04\/21\/just-how-good-is-derek-jeter\/","title":{"rendered":"Just How Good is Derek Jeter?"},"content":{"rendered":"

Here is the short answer.\u00c2\u00a0 At the end of the 2009 season, Derek Jeter moved into 6th<\/sup> place among the best shortstops of the modern era (since 1920).\u00c2\u00a0 For more details, keep reading.<\/p>\n

Bill James\u00e2\u20ac\u2122 Win Shares system is the most comprehensive tool available to understand how good a season<\/strong> a player had.\u00c2\u00a0 It includes offensive and defensive contributions and adjusts for all relevant factors.\u00c2\u00a0 The CAWS Career Gauge (Career Assessment\/Win Shares) uses win shares to measure how good a career<\/strong> a player has had.<\/p>\n

According to the CAWS Gauge, as of the end of the 2009 season, only ninety-seven (97) position players (not pitchers) have put together obvious HOF numbers<\/strong> during their playing careers (since 1920).\u00c2\u00a0 Thirteen of these players have been shortstops.\u00c2\u00a0 Of these thirteen, Derek Jeter is in the 6th<\/sup> spot and moving up.<\/p>\n

At the conclusion of the 2008 season, Jeter was in 8th place among these elite shortstops.\u00c2\u00a0 Given his outstanding 2009 season he was able to move up two places in a single season.<\/p>\n

Here are the thirteen shortstops who have put together obvious HOF numbers during their careers (since 1920).\u00c2\u00a0 The first number is career win shares, the second is core value (the win shares for the ten best seasons) and the third is the CAWS score.\u00c2\u00a0 Bold print indicates the player is in the Hall of Fame.\u00c2\u00a0 A CAWS score of 250 is needed to establish obvious HOF numbers for a shortstop.<\/p>\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n
<\/td>\nPlayer<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n Years<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\nCWS<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\nCV<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\nCAWS<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
1.<\/td>\nAlex Rodriguez<\/span><\/td>\n1994- <\/span><\/td>\n422<\/span>
\n<\/em><\/td>\n		329<\/span>
\n<\/em><\/td>\n		352<\/span>
\n<\/em><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
2.<\/strong><\/td>\nArky Vaughan<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n1932-1948<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n356<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n308<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n320<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
3.<\/strong><\/td>\nRobin Yount<\/span>
\n<\/strong><\/td>\n		1974-1993<\/span><\/strong><\/td>\n423<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n278<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n314<\/span><\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
4.<\/strong><\/td>\nCal Ripken Jr.<\/span>
\n<\/strong><\/td>\n		1981-2001<\/span><\/strong><\/td>\n427<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n276<\/span><\/strong><\/td>\n314<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
5.<\/strong><\/td>\nLuke Appling<\/span>
\n<\/strong><\/td>\n		1930-1950<\/span><\/strong><\/td>\n378<\/span><\/strong><\/td>\n275<\/span><\/strong><\/td>\n301<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
6.<\/td>\nDerek Jeter<\/span>
\n<\/em><\/td>\n		1995-<\/span><\/td>\n348<\/span><\/td>\n273<\/span><\/td>\n292<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
7.<\/strong><\/td>\nJoe Cronin<\/span>
\n<\/strong><\/td>\n		1926-1945<\/span><\/strong><\/td>\n333<\/span><\/strong><\/td>\n275<\/span><\/strong><\/td>\n290<\/span><\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
8.<\/td>\nBarry Larkin<\/span><\/td>\n1986-2004<\/span><\/td>\n347<\/span><\/td>\n258<\/span><\/td>\n280<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
9.<\/strong><\/td>\nErnie Banks<\/span>
\n<\/strong><\/td>\n		1953-1971<\/span><\/strong><\/td>\n332<\/span><\/strong><\/td>\n247<\/span><\/strong><\/td>\n268<\/span><\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
10.<\/strong><\/td>\nPee Wee Reese<\/span>
\n<\/strong><\/td>\n		1940-1958<\/span><\/strong><\/td>\n314<\/span><\/strong><\/td>\n246<\/span><\/strong><\/td>\n263<\/span><\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
11.<\/strong><\/td>\nLou Boudreau<\/span>
\n<\/strong><\/td>\n		1938-1952<\/span><\/strong><\/td>\n277<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n255<\/span><\/strong><\/td>\n261<\/span><\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
12.<\/td>\nAlan Trammell<\/span><\/td>\n1977-1996<\/span><\/td>\n318<\/span><\/td>\n238<\/span><\/td>\n258<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
13.<\/strong><\/td>\nOzzie Smith<\/span>
\n<\/strong><\/td>\n		1978-1996<\/span><\/strong><\/td>\n325<\/span><\/strong><\/td>\n226<\/span><\/strong><\/td>\n251<\/span><\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n

Yes, Alex Rodriguez is still considered a shortstop since (through 2009) he has played more games at that position than at any other.<\/p>\n

Note that Jeter has a core value of 273.\u00c2\u00a0 That means that for his ten best seasons he averaged better than 27 win shares per season.\u00c2\u00a0 To appreciate how good that really is consider that in 2009, only six American Leaguers and seven National Leaguers had 27 or more win shares.<\/p>\n

As an aside, note where Barry Larkin appears on this list.\u00c2\u00a0 He is the 8th<\/sup> best shortstop of the modern era.\u00c2\u00a0 He has very obvious HOF numbers.\u00c2\u00a0 Yet, in his first year on the HOF ballot (2010), he got only 51.6% of the vote.\u00c2\u00a0 And, of course, Alan Trammell still languishes at 22.4% in his ninth year on the ballot.\u00c2\u00a0 It does appear that many of the voters need to do some homework before voting.<\/p>\n

It is reasonable to say that if Derek Jeter can have one or more really solid seasons there is no reason to believe that he cannot continue to pass some of these other shortstops \u00e2\u20ac\u201c although that gets increasingly difficult to do as he moves higher.\u00c2\u00a0 And, as you can see, there is almost no chance that his numbers will ever surpass those of ARod.<\/p>\n

In case you are wondering where some other well-known shortstops stand in relation to these top performers, here are a few other names.<\/p>\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n
Player<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\nCWS<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\nCV<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\nCAWS<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
Vern Stephens<\/span><\/td>\n265<\/span><\/td>\n239<\/span><\/td>\n246<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
Miguel Tejada
\n<\/span><\/td>\n		261<\/span><\/td>\n239<\/span><\/td>\n245<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
Joe Sewell<\/span><\/strong><\/td>\n277<\/span><\/strong><\/td>\n233<\/span><\/strong><\/td>\n244<\/span><\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
Jim Fregosi<\/span><\/td>\n261<\/span><\/td>\n226<\/span><\/td>\n235<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
Dave Bancroft<\/span><\/strong><\/td>\n269<\/span><\/strong><\/td>\n222<\/span><\/strong><\/td>\n234<\/span><\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
Tony Fernandez<\/span><\/td>\n280<\/span><\/td>\n219<\/span><\/td>\n234<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
Rabbit Maranville<\/span>
\n<\/strong><\/td>\n		302<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n206<\/span><\/strong><\/td>\n230<\/span><\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
Bert Campaneris<\/span><\/td>\n280<\/span><\/td>\n210<\/span><\/td>\n228<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
Maury Wills<\/span><\/td>\n253<\/span><\/td>\n218<\/span><\/td>\n227<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
Phil Rizzuto<\/span>
\n<\/strong><\/td>\n		231<\/span>
\n<\/strong><\/td>\n		218<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n221<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
Luis Aparicio<\/span>
\n<\/strong><\/td>\n		293<\/span>
\n<\/strong><\/td>\n		193<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n218<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
Omar Vizquel<\/span>
\n<\/strong><\/td>\n		273<\/span>
\n<\/strong><\/td>\n		182<\/span><\/td>\n205<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
Travis Jackson<\/span>
\n<\/strong><\/td>\n		211<\/span>
\n<\/strong><\/td>\n		191<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n196<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n

Note that on this list there are six shortstops who are in the Hall of Fame but who do not have HOF numbers according to the CAWS Gauge.\u00c2\u00a0 And also note that Miguel Tejada is fast approaching the 250 benchmark for shortstops.<\/p>\n

Not only has Derek Jeter already posted obvious HOF numbers in his career, but he appears poised to finish that career ranked among the top five shortstops of the modern era.<\/p>\n

If anyone would like to get a free e-copy of Michael Hoban\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s 100-page monograph: <\/em>A HOF HANDBOOK: Who Belongs and Who Does Not<\/em><\/strong>, please e-mail him at <\/a><\/em>mike_hoban@msn.com.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Here is the short answer.\u00c2\u00a0 At the end of the 2009 season, Derek Jeter moved into 6th place among the best shortstops of the modern era (since 1920).\u00c2\u00a0 For more details, keep reading. Bill James\u00e2\u20ac\u2122 Win Shares system is the most comprehensive tool available to understand how good a season a player had.\u00c2\u00a0 It includes […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":18,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[9,19],"tags":[6329,1481,4652,2003,6322,2009,6323,4626,3555,1025,4463,3540,6328,1829,6220,1177,6324,2010,1739,6321],"class_list":["post-4456","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-general","category-prof-hobans-hall-of-fame-blog","tag-alan-trammell","tag-alex-rodriguez","tag-arky-vaughan","tag-barry-larkin","tag-bold-print","tag-cal-ripken-jr","tag-career-assessment","tag-core-value","tag-derek-jeter","tag-ernie-banks","tag-joe-cronin","tag-lou-boudreau","tag-luke-appling","tag-ozzie-smith","tag-pee-wee-reese","tag-position-players","tag-relevant-factors","tag-robin-yount","tag-shortstops","tag-th-place"],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/seamheads.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4456","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/seamheads.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/seamheads.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/seamheads.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/18"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/seamheads.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4456"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/seamheads.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4456\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/seamheads.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4456"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/seamheads.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4456"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/seamheads.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4456"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}