{"id":803,"date":"2008-11-11T06:00:13","date_gmt":"2008-11-11T13:00:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/seamheads.com\/blog\/2008\/11\/11\/recent-players-among-the-top-25-%e2%80%93-the-outfielders\/"},"modified":"2008-11-17T14:50:04","modified_gmt":"2008-11-17T21:50:04","slug":"recent-players-among-the-top-25-%e2%80%93-the-outfielders","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/seamheads.com\/blog\/2008\/11\/11\/recent-players-among-the-top-25-%e2%80%93-the-outfielders\/","title":{"rendered":"Recent Players Among the Top 25 \u00e2\u20ac\u201c the Outfielders"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>Here is an interesting question.  According to the CAWS Career Gauge, how many of the top 25 players at each position in the 20th century were still playing in the 21st century (2001 or later)?  Let\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s take a look.<\/em><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>All numbers include the 2008 season.<br \/>\n<strong>Bold print = Hall of Famer<\/strong><br \/>\n<em>Italic = active player in 2008<\/em><br \/>\nCWS = Career Win Shares<br \/>\nCV  =  Core Value (sum of win shares for 10 best seasons)<br \/>\nCAWS = Career Value  =  CV  +  .25(CWS &#8211; CV)<\/p>\n<p><strong>The Right Fielders <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Among the top 25 right fielders with the best careers since 1901, there are four who have played in the 21st century.  Here are their numbers (the number in front of the player\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s name is his rank among the top right fielders).<\/p>\n<table valign=\"top\" border=\"1\" width=\"100%\">\n<tr>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#f7f7ef\"><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#f7f7ef\"><font color=\"#000000\" size=\"3\"><strong>Player<\/strong><\/font><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#f7f7ef\"><font color=\"#000000\" size=\"3\"><strong> Years<\/strong><\/font><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#f7f7ef\"><font color=\"#000000\" size=\"3\"><strong>CWS<\/strong><\/font><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#f7f7ef\"><font color=\"#000000\" size=\"3\"><strong>CV<\/strong><\/font><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#f7f7ef\"><font color=\"#000000\" size=\"3\"><strong>CAWS<\/strong><\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><strong>11.<\/strong><\/td>\n<td align=\"left\" bgcolor=\"#cccccc\"><strong><font color=\"#000000\" size=\"3\">Tony Gwynn<\/font><\/strong><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><strong><font size=\"3\">1982-2001 <\/font><\/strong><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><font size=\"3\"><strong>398<\/strong><\/font><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><font size=\"3\"><strong>269<\/strong><\/font><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><font size=\"3\"><strong>294<\/strong><\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><em>16.<\/em><\/td>\n<td align=\"left\" bgcolor=\"#cccccc\"><em><font size=\"3\">Vladimir Guerrero<\/font><br \/>\n<\/em><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><em><font size=\"3\">1996- <\/font><\/em><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><em><font size=\"3\">294<\/font><br \/>\n<\/em><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><em><font size=\"3\">266<\/font><br \/>\n<\/em><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><em><font size=\"3\">273<\/font><br \/>\n<\/em><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\">17.<\/td>\n<td align=\"left\" bgcolor=\"#cccccc\"><font size=\"3\">Sammy Sosa<\/font><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><font size=\"3\">1989-2007<\/font><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><font size=\"3\">325<\/font><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><font size=\"3\">255<\/font><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><font size=\"3\">273<\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><em>18.<\/em><\/td>\n<td align=\"left\" bgcolor=\"#cccccc\"><em><font size=\"3\">Bobby Abreu<\/font><br \/>\n<\/em><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><em><font size=\"3\">1996-<\/font><\/em><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><font size=\"3\"><em>289<\/em><\/font><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><em><font size=\"3\">265<\/font><\/em><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><em><font size=\"3\">271<\/font><\/em><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<p>As you can see, only <strong>Tony Gwynn<\/strong> is in the Hall of Fame and he is the only one of these four who has HOF numbers so far according to the CAWS Career Gauge.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sammy Sosa<\/strong> retired without quite making the 280 CAWS benchmark for a right fielder.  But both <strong>Vladimir Guerrero<\/strong> and <strong>Bobby Abreu<\/strong> have a good shot at reaching that standard.<\/p>\n<p><strong>The Left Fielders <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Among the top 25 left fielders with the best careers since 1901, there are six who have played in the 21st century.  Here are their numbers (the number in front of the player\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s name is his rank among the top left fielders).<\/p>\n<table valign=\"top\" border=\"1\" width=\"100%\">\n<tr>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#f7f7ef\"><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#f7f7ef\"><font color=\"#000000\" size=\"3\"><strong>Player<\/strong><\/font><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#f7f7ef\"><font color=\"#000000\" size=\"3\"><strong> Years<\/strong><\/font><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#f7f7ef\"><font color=\"#000000\" size=\"3\"><strong>CWS<\/strong><\/font><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#f7f7ef\"><font color=\"#000000\" size=\"3\"><strong>CV<\/strong><\/font><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#f7f7ef\"><font color=\"#000000\" size=\"3\"><strong>CAWS<\/strong><\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\">1.<\/td>\n<td align=\"left\" bgcolor=\"#cccccc\"><font color=\"#000000\" size=\"3\">Barry Bonds<\/font><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><font size=\"3\">1986-2007 <\/font><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><font size=\"3\">707<\/font><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><font size=\"3\">427<\/font><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><font size=\"3\">497<\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\">5.<\/td>\n<td align=\"left\" bgcolor=\"#cccccc\"><font size=\"3\">Rickey Henderson<\/font><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><font size=\"3\">1979-2003 <\/font><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><font size=\"3\">535<\/font><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><font size=\"3\">308<\/font><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><font size=\"3\">365<\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><em>7.<\/em><\/td>\n<td align=\"left\" bgcolor=\"#cccccc\"><em><font size=\"3\">Gary Sheffield<\/font><\/em><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><em><font size=\"3\">1988-<\/font><\/em><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><font size=\"3\"><em>422<\/em><\/font><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><em><font size=\"3\">305<\/font><\/em><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><font size=\"3\"><em>334<\/em><\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><em>8.<\/em><\/td>\n<td align=\"left\" bgcolor=\"#cccccc\"><em><font size=\"3\">Manny Ramirez<\/font><br \/>\n<\/em><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><em><font size=\"3\">1993-<\/font><\/em><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><font size=\"3\"><em>379<\/em><\/font><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><em><font size=\"3\">285<\/font><\/em><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><font size=\"3\"><em>309<\/em><\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\">10.<\/td>\n<td align=\"left\" bgcolor=\"#cccccc\"><font size=\"3\">Tim Raines<\/font><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><font size=\"3\">1979-2002<\/font><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><font size=\"3\">390<\/font><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><font size=\"3\">275<\/font><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><font size=\"3\">304<\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><em>25.<\/em><\/td>\n<td align=\"left\" bgcolor=\"#cccccc\"><em><font size=\"3\">Luis Gonzalez<\/font><br \/>\n<\/em><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><em><font size=\"3\">1990-<\/font><\/em><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><font size=\"3\"><em>318<\/em><\/font><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><em><font size=\"3\">226<\/font><\/em><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><em><font size=\"3\">249<\/font><\/em><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<p>All of these players (with the exception of Luis Gonzalez) have Hall of Fame numbers according to the CAWS Gauge.  The benchmark for a left fielder is 280 and each of the first five players has a score better than 300 \u00e2\u20ac\u201c a very strong group.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Barry Bonds<\/strong>, <strong>Rickey Henderson <\/strong>and <strong>Tim Raines<\/strong> all have obvious HOF numbers.  Bonds will almost certainly have \u00e2\u20ac\u0153steroids problems\u00e2\u20ac\u009d when he is eligible for election.  Rickey should be a first-round choice for Cooperstown in 2008.  Tim Raines got only 24% of the vote in 2007.  Despite having obvious HOF numbers, Raines is completely underrated.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Gary Sheffield<\/strong>, <strong>Manny Ramirez<\/strong> and <strong>Luis Gonzalez<\/strong> are still active players.  Sheffield and Ramirez have obvious HOF numbers.  But Sheffield has alleged \u00e2\u20ac\u0153steroids problems\u00e2\u20ac\u009d and it will be interesting to see how the BBWAA voters will treat him.  Manny should get into the Hall easily when he is eligible.  Luis Gonzalez is near the end of his career and does not have HOF credentials.<\/p>\n<p><strong>The Center Fielders   <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Among the top 25 center fielders with the best careers since 1901, there are four who have played in the 21st century.  Here are their numbers (the number in front of the player\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s name is his rank among the top center fielders).<\/p>\n<table valign=\"top\" border=\"1\" width=\"100%\">\n<tr>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#f7f7ef\"><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#f7f7ef\"><font color=\"#000000\" size=\"3\"><strong>Player<\/strong><\/font><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#f7f7ef\"><font color=\"#000000\" size=\"3\"><strong> Years<\/strong><\/font><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#f7f7ef\"><font color=\"#000000\" size=\"3\"><strong>CWS<\/strong><\/font><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#f7f7ef\"><font color=\"#000000\" size=\"3\"><strong>CV<\/strong><\/font><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#f7f7ef\"><font color=\"#000000\" size=\"3\"><strong>CAWS<\/strong><\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><em>6.<\/em><\/td>\n<td align=\"left\" bgcolor=\"#cccccc\"><em><font color=\"#000000\" size=\"3\">Ken Griffey Jr.<\/font><\/em><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><em><font size=\"3\">1989- <\/font><\/em><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><em><font size=\"3\">396<\/font><\/em><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><em><font size=\"3\">278<\/font><\/em><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><font size=\"3\"><em>308<\/em><\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\">14.<\/td>\n<td align=\"left\" bgcolor=\"#cccccc\"><font size=\"3\">Bernie Williams<\/font><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><font size=\"3\">1991-2006 <\/font><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><font size=\"3\">311<\/font><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><font size=\"3\">248<\/font><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><font size=\"3\">264<\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><em>15.<\/em><\/td>\n<td align=\"left\" bgcolor=\"#cccccc\"><em><font size=\"3\">Jim Edmonds<\/font><\/em><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><em><font size=\"3\">1993-<\/font><\/em><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><font size=\"3\"><em>293<\/em><\/font><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><em><font size=\"3\">250<\/font><\/em><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><em><font size=\"3\">261<\/font><\/em><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><em>25.<\/em><\/td>\n<td align=\"left\" bgcolor=\"#cccccc\"><em><font size=\"3\">Carlos Beltran<\/font><br \/>\n<\/em><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><em><font size=\"3\">1998-<\/font><\/em><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><font size=\"3\"><em>238<\/em><\/font><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><em><font size=\"3\">236<\/font><\/em><\/td>\n<td align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#ffffff\"><em><font size=\"3\">237<\/font><\/em><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<p>Of these four players, only <strong>Ken Griffey Jr.<\/strong> has so far attained the 270 benchmark for HOF numbers for a center fielder.  Junior should be a shoo-in for the Hall of Fame when he is eligible.  <strong>Bernie Williams<\/strong> had a solid career but came up somewhat short of the mark.  He does not have HOF numbers.<\/p>\n<p>Both <strong>Jim Edmonds<\/strong> and <strong>Carlos Beltran<\/strong> are still active and could reach the 270 goal.  It seems to be a distinct possibility for both players.<\/p>\n<p><em>For more information on the CAWS <st1 w:st=\"on\"><\/st1><st1 w:st=\"on\">HOF<\/st1> Gauge, see <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/seamheads.com\/blog\/baseballs-best-the-true-hall-of-famers\/\" target=\"_blank\">BASEBALL\u00e2\u20ac\u2122S BEST: The TRUE Hall of Famers<\/a> <\/strong>on this site.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Here is an interesting question. According to the CAWS Career Gauge, how many of the top 25 players at each position in the 20th century were still playing in the 21st century (2001 or later)? 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