{"id":9520,"date":"2010-11-14T20:28:12","date_gmt":"2010-11-15T03:28:12","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.seamheads.com\/?p=9520"},"modified":"2010-11-14T20:28:12","modified_gmt":"2010-11-15T03:28:12","slug":"expansion-era-hall-of-fame-ballot","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/seamheads.com\/blog\/2010\/11\/14\/expansion-era-hall-of-fame-ballot\/","title":{"rendered":"Expansion Era Hall of Fame Ballot"},"content":{"rendered":"

There will be a Veterans Committee Hall of Fame election in December, 2010 for what is being called \u00e2\u20ac\u0153The Expansion Era (1973-Present).\u00e2\u20ac\u009d\u00c2\u00a0 There are twelve names on the ballot: eight players, one manager (Billy Martin) and three executives (Pat Gillick, Marvin Miller and George Steinbrenner).\u00c2\u00a0 A player must be retired for at least twenty-one (21) years to be eligible.<\/p>\n

The ballot was created by a group of eleven members of the BBWAA.\u00c2\u00a0 The eight players on the ballot are: Vida Blue, Dave Concepcion, Steve Garvey, Ron Guidry, Tommy John, Al Oliver, Ted Simmons and Rusty Staub.<\/p>\n

The obvious first question is: What criteria were used to select these eight candidates?<\/strong> Did they pull names out of a hat or throw darts at a board?\u00c2\u00a0 Does anyone really think that these eight players are the most deserving players from that era who are not already in the Hall?\u00c2\u00a0 According to the CAWS Career Gauge only one of these players (Ted Simmons) has obvious HOF numbers while only two others (Rusty Staub and Tommy John) have the numbers to merit a second look at their credentials.<\/p>\n

And what about the really deserving players from that era who are not on the ballot?\u00c2\u00a0 According to the CAWS Gauge, there are very few players from \u00e2\u20ac\u0153the expansion era\u00e2\u20ac\u009d who posted obvious HOF numbers during their careers and who are not already in the Hall of Fame.<\/p>\n

Bill James\u00e2\u20ac\u2122 Win Shares system is the most comprehensive tool available to understand how good a season<\/strong> a player had.\u00c2\u00a0 It includes offensive and defensive contributions and adjusts for all relevant factors.\u00c2\u00a0 The CAWS Career Gauge (Career Assessment\/Win Shares) uses win shares to measure how good a career<\/strong> a player has had.\u00c2\u00a0 The CAWS Gauge is based on a player\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s core value (his ten best seasons) plus additional credit for his other seasons.\u00c2\u00a0 It is an objective tool which attempts to assess career value.\u00c2\u00a0 And it can be very handy in the debate as to who belongs in the Hall of Fame.<\/p>\n

The CAWS Gauge suggests that there are only four players from the period<\/strong> defined by the committee who actually posted obvious HOF numbers during their careers and who are not yet in the Hall.\u00c2\u00a0 Here are those players: Darrell Evans (3B), Bobby Grich (2B), Ted Simmons (C) and Dan Quisenberry (relief pitcher). <\/strong>And only Ted Simmons is on this ballot.\u00c2\u00a0 Where do these committees do their research?\u00c2\u00a0 Or is it too much to ask that they do some research?<\/p>\n

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  1. There are only nine third basemen who have posted obvious HOF numbers since 1920 and Darrell Evans is #7<\/strong>.\u00c2\u00a0 Here are those ahead of him: Mike Schmidt, Eddie Mathews, George Brett, Wade Boggs, Chipper Jones and Ron Santo.<\/li>\n
  2. There are only twelve second basemen who have done it and Bobby Grich is #10<\/strong>.\u00c2\u00a0 Here are those ahead of him: Rogers Hornsby, Joe Morgan, Craig Biggio, Charlie Gehringer, Roberto Alomar, Ryne Sandberg, Rod Carew, Frankie Frisch and Jeff Kent.<\/li>\n
  3. There are only eleven catchers who have done it and Ted Simmons is #7<\/strong>.\u00c2\u00a0 Here are those ahead of him: Yogi Berra, Johnny Bench, Mike Piazza, Gary Carter, Carlton Fisk and Joe Torre.<\/li>\n
  4. There are only five pure relief pitchers (fewer than 1500 innings pitched) who have done it and Dan Quisenberry is #5<\/strong>.\u00c2\u00a0 Here are the others: Mariano Rivera, Lee Smith, Bruce Sutter and Billy Wagner.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

    These are the only four position players from this era who posted obvious HOF numbers during their careers and are not yet in the Hall of Fame.\u00c2\u00a0 And only one of them is on the ballot.<\/strong><\/p>\n

    OK, what about the other position players on the ballot?\u00c2\u00a0 Rusty Staub<\/strong> is just below the CAWS benchmark of 280.\u00c2\u00a0 And here are a few other top ranked players from this era who are not in the Hall of Fame.\u00c2\u00a0 None of these has met the CAWS benchmark for obvious HOF numbers.\u00c2\u00a0 And check out how their numbers compare to Reggie Jackson\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s \u00e2\u20ac\u201c a true Hall of Famer from this era.<\/p>\n

    The first number is career win shares, the second is core value (the win shares for the ten best seasons) and the third is the CAWS score [CAWS = CV + .25(CWS \u00e2\u20ac\u201c CV)].<\/p>\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n
    Player<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\nCWS<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\nCV<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\nCAWS<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
    Reggie Jackson
    \n<\/span><\/strong><\/td>\n    		444<\/span><\/strong><\/td>\n296<\/span><\/strong><\/td>\n333<\/span><\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
    Rusty Staub<\/span>
    \n<\/strong><\/td>\n    		354<\/span>
    \n<\/strong><\/td>\n    		254<\/span>
    \n<\/strong><\/td>\n    		279<\/span>
    \n<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
    Bobby Bonds
    \n<\/span><\/td>\n    		302<\/span><\/td>\n264<\/span><\/td>\n274<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
    Ken Singleton
    \n<\/span><\/td>\n    		302<\/span><\/td>\n260<\/span><\/td>\n271<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
    Reggie Smith
    \n<\/span><\/td>\n    		325<\/span><\/td>\n250<\/span><\/td>\n269<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n\n\n\n\n
    <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
    <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n

    You can see how much better these numbers are than the other three position players on the ballot.<\/p>\n\n\n\n\n\n\n
    Player<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\nCWS<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\nCV<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\nCAWS<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
    Al Oliver<\/span>
    \n<\/span><\/strong><\/td>\n    		305<\/span><\/td>\n222<\/span><\/td>\n243<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
    Steve Garvey<\/span>
    \n<\/strong><\/td>\n    		279<\/span>
    \n<\/strong><\/td>\n    		215<\/span>
    \n<\/strong><\/td>\n    		231<\/span>
    \n<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
    Dave Concepcion
    \n<\/span><\/td>\n    		269<\/span><\/td>\n205<\/span><\/td>\n221<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n\n\n\n\n
    <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
    <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n

    None of these three players comes remotely close to satisfying the CAWS benchmark for HOF numbers for his position.\u00c2\u00a0 How did they ever get on the ballot in the first place?<\/p>\n

    What about the pitchers on the ballot?<\/strong> None of the three comes close to reaching the CAWS benchmark of 235 for a starting pitcher.\u00c2\u00a0 In fact, there is no starting pitcher in this era who posted HOF numbers who is not already in the Hall of Fame.\u00c2\u00a0 Just look at how these numbers compare to Tom Seaver\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s \u00e2\u20ac\u201c a true Hall of Famer from this era.<\/p>\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n
    Player<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\nCWS<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\nCV<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\nCAWS<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
    Tom Seaver<\/span><\/strong>
    \n<\/span><\/strong><\/td>\n    		388<\/span><\/strong><\/td>\n255<\/span><\/strong><\/td>\n288<\/span><\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
    Tommy John<\/span>
    \n<\/strong><\/td>\n    		289<\/span>
    \n<\/strong><\/td>\n    		165<\/span>
    \n<\/strong><\/td>\n    		196<\/span>
    \n<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
    Vida Blue
    \n<\/span><\/td>\n    		202<\/span><\/td>\n178<\/span><\/td>\n184<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
    Ron Guidry
    \n<\/span><\/td>\n    		174<\/span><\/td>\n164<\/span><\/td>\n167<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n\n\n\n\n
    <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
    <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n

    OK, so where are we?\u00c2\u00a0 If I had a vote, the only player on this ballot that I would vote for is Ted Simmons<\/strong> \u00e2\u20ac\u201c the only player on the ballot with HOF numbers.<\/p>\n

    One more comment.\u00c2\u00a0 The only other person (non-player) on the ballot I would vote for is Marvin Miller. <\/strong>The fact that he is not yet in the Hall of Fame is simply testimony to the close-mindedness that sometimes prevails among certain followers of the game.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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