{"id":9611,"date":"2010-11-18T10:28:32","date_gmt":"2010-11-18T17:28:32","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.seamheads.com\/?p=9611"},"modified":"2010-11-18T10:28:32","modified_gmt":"2010-11-18T17:28:32","slug":"just-how-good-is-roy-halladay","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/seamheads.com\/blog\/2010\/11\/18\/just-how-good-is-roy-halladay\/","title":{"rendered":"Just How Good is Roy Halladay?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Roy Halladay was just awarded the Cy Young award for the National League for 2010.\u00c2\u00a0 He becomes only the fifth pitcher to win the award in both leagues.\u00c2\u00a0 The others are Gaylord Perry, Roger Clemens, Randy Johnson and Pedro Martinez.<\/p>\n<p>But, even more significantly, would you believe that as a result of his great 2010 season, Roy Halladay has achieved Hall of Fame numbers after just thirteen seasons?<\/p>\n<p>Only forty (40) pitchers since 1920 have posted HOF numbers (according to the CAWS Career Gauge) including the four mentioned above and Roy Halladay.<\/p>\n<p>Halladay had an outstanding season in 2010.\u00c2\u00a0 It was his thirteenth season in the big leagues and his record was 21-10 with an ERA of 2.44.\u00c2\u00a0 By any measure, this was a great season. 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