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John Smoltz and the Hall of Fame

August 27, 2009 by · 2 Comments 

As John Smoltz nears the end of his career, a number of people are raising the question as to whether he has the credentials for election to the Hall of Fame.

The CAWS Career Gauge is a tool that can be used to determine HOF credentials (CAWS stands for Career Assessment/Win Shares). It uses win shares and the concept of “core value” to determine HOF worthiness. And, as far as tools of this type go, it works reasonably well.

According to the CAWS Gauge, at the end of the 2008 season, there were only 39 pitchers in the modern era (since 1920) who had established obvious HOF numbers. And John Smoltz is not one of these – although he is reasonably close.

Here are some of these pitchers. All numbers include the 2008 season.
CWS = Career Win Shares
CV = Core Value (sum of win shares for 10 best seasons)
CAWS = Career Assessment/Win Shares = CV + .25(CWS – CV)

1. There are 25 pitchers who achieved a CAWS score of 235. Here are a few of them.

Player CWS CV CAWS
Roger Clemens 432 260 303
Tom Seaver 388 255 288
Greg Maddux 398 246 284
Bob Gibson 317 258 273
Randy Johnson 322 230 253
Bob Feller 292 239 252
Early Wynn 309 217 240
Juan Marichal 263 229 238

2. There are only four pitchers who did not achieve a score of 235 but did earn 300 win shares.

Player CWS CV CAWS
Tom Glavine 314 203 231
Nolan Ryan 334 191 227
Don Sutton 319 187 220
Dennis Eckersley 301 183 213

At the moment, Bert Blyleven is the only modern pitcher with 300 win shares who has been eligible but has not been elected to the Hall.

Player CWS CV CAWS
Bert Blyleven 339 218 248

3. There are only five pitchers who achieved a score of 180 with fewer than 2400 innings pitched. (For Pedro, this was through the 2004 season.)

Player CWS CV CAWS
Pedro Martinez 224 200 206
Sandy Koufax 194 190 191
Hoyt Wilhelm 256 168 190
Goose Gossage 223 173 186
Dizzy Dean 181 180 180

4. There are only five pitchers who achieved a score of 150 with fewer than 1700 innings pitched. These, of course, are the “pure” relievers.

Player CWS CV CAWS
Mariano Rivera 212 175 184
Bruce Sutter 168 163 164
Lee Smith 198 152 164
Dan Quisenberry 157 155 156
Rollie Fingers 188 144 155

All of the pitchers mentioned above have obvious HOF numbers. Now, where does John Smoltz fit into this picture?

Player CWS CV CAWS
John Smoltz 288 185 211

Smoltz does not reach the benchmark of 235 for category #1. Nor does he qualify in terms of innings pitched for categories #3 or 4. With 288 career win shares, he comes close to the 300 win shares criterion but falls a bit short here also.

Here are eight other very good pitchers who fell somewhat short of obvious HOF numbers.

Player CWS CV CAWS
Luis Tiant 256 198 213
Mike Mussina 270 186 207
Curt Schilling 252 191 206
Kevin Brown 241 193 205
Jim Kaat 268 181 203
Tommy John 289 165 196
Jack Morris 225 172 185
David Cone 205 173 181

An argument could be made that of the modern pitchers who do not have obvious HOF numbers but are definitely “borderline” – John Smoltz, Mike Mussina and Curt Schilling top the list.

In fact, all three of these pitchers have better numbers than Catfish Hunter who is already in the Hall of Fame.

Player CWS CV CAWS
Catfish Hunter 206 184 190

Thank you for your time.

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Mike Hoban
Prof Emeritus, City U of NY

Comments

2 Responses to “John Smoltz and the Hall of Fame”
  1. Billi says:

    Curt Schilling falls short of the Hal?? LOL
    Change your formulas!

  2. Ted Leavengood says:

    Mike, Every time I read your analysis it seems more and more sound and the emphasis on “career” in all of this weights it all toward lifetime achievement. Which makes sense. Pitchers like Dizzy Dean and Sandy Koufax who were very, very good, but whose careers were shorter, seem to be the most impacted.

    I think the commenter above is arguing for a qualitative analysis that supplements the numbers. Schilling has made wonderful post-season contributions which supplement his exceptional career numbers that may fall short, but usually influence the voters. The problem is developing a consistent approach.

    Maybe adding a category for teh quantity and quality of post-season appearances would address those players who have captured the imagination of fans through great World Series work.

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